Ask HN: What's your current AI agentic setup? (self)
396 pointsby eggbraina day ago|442 comments
I'm curious how people on HN are using AI day to day, and came up with a list of questions I thought could be interesting to know. No need to answer every question of course, just wanted to get a gut feel how people are using AI.
1) What AI subscriptions are you personally paying for? (Claude, ChatGPT/Codex, Cursor, etc)
- Which tiers?
- Have you purchased multiple subscriptions from the same provider (eg two Claude accounts)?
2) Are you using models outside (or instead) of those subscriptions? For example, pay-as-you-go APIs, OpenRouter, or locally hosted models.
- Which models and providers?
3) What coding harnesses and interfaces are you using? Are you sticking with the default CLIs or IDE integrations, or using alternatives like OpenCode, Pi, Aider, Muse Code, or custom-built harnesses?
- What made you switch harnesses (if you switched)?
4) Are you using any agent orchestration or swarm tools?
- For example, Munder Difflin, Gas Town, Ruflo, or something custom.
5) Are you using broader agent platforms like OpenClaw / Hermes Agent / Grok bot / Dots / Muse?
- If you are using them, what are your main use cases?
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I know my workflow has differed significantly from a year ago, and so it would be interesting to capture a snapshot today of what people are using and why.
Animats 4 hours ago
Embarrassingly, I don't have one yet. I'm mostly still writing code one keystroke at a time. I've used Github Copilot to translate between languages and look things up, but haven't trusted it to write new code or fix anything.
Claude Fable is now good enough that I should be using it. The latest Claude version is said to be comparable to a mid-career graphics programmer, which is about what I need. Six months ago it wasn't good enough to use for such work, and probably would have made a hash of my code.
There's been progress.
But Anthropic's business practices are scary. They have a reputation for cancelling accounts for random reasons, offer rather bad terms, and have no customer support. I have a strong aversion
to services with a reputation for cancelling services arbitrarily. They will apparently cancel based on their system's guesses as to what you're working on. Sometimes they guess wrong. What I'm doing (metaverse clients) is so far out of the mainstream they may guess wrong.
I'm currently stalled signing up for Claude because their verification email system can't get to my inbox. (Some problem with their using Constant Contact, a spam system, to send transactional emails to my own domain, which, long ago, I had blocked at the Constant Contact end. I think. The verification email never touches the inbound mail server.) It's very important to Anthropic that you sign up with the "right" email address, and it may not be possible to change it, so using some disposable address is not a good idea.
Suggestions?
olmo23 4 hours ago
Just use a random gmail address, it works.
walrus01 4 hours ago
I would suggest that based on your current level of "trust" in these things (justifiably very low, I use zero openai or anthropic products myself) that you look into self hosting locally something reasonably capable and smart on your own hardware, on llama-server or something functionally equivalent to it. And running it in something like the opencode harness, using zero of the opencode API or online services. Qwen 3.8-flash-next will run on a lot of different hardware setups that are within the reach of normal people, or possibly deepseek v4 flash 1017, glm5.3-flash, things in that general category.
sampullman 4 minutes ago
Qwen 3.8-flash-next is great, but if they say SOTA models from 6 months ago weren't good enough for the kind of code they write, Qwen isn't going to cut it yet.
computomatic 4 hours ago
You can access Claude models through any number of providers - OpenRouter, AWS Bedrock, etc. and as far as I know, Claude Code can be used with any of them. The only real benefit to going direct through Anthropic is the subscriptions. It’s worth the risk for the discount, but if you get locked out, there’s other (pricy) options to get unblocked.
ChrisRR 3 hours ago
You don't even need to start off with Fable. Give Opus 5.5 a try first and then then try Fable if you feel like you need to push it further
nedt 2 minutes ago
I have a longer history of agents sessions and used those to benchmark the different models. Sonnet 5.5 is already pretty strong, but not always as careful (leaked secrets into the session). Opus 5.5 is already able to solve everything I'm doing. You might not need Fable for anything. Biggest different between Opus and Fable in my benchmarks was price. Also Opus 5.5 is cheaper now then previous Opus so you might also not need Sonnet as much for cost savings.
creativeSlumber 32 minutes ago
> But Anthropic's business practices are scary. They have a reputation for cancelling accounts for random reasons, offer rather bad terms, and have no customer support. I have a strong aversion to services with a reputation for cancelling services arbitrarily. They will apparently cancel based on their system's guesses as to what you're working on. Sometimes they guess wrong. What I'm doing (metaverse clients) is so far out of the mainstream they may guess wrong.
Then use open alternatives as much as possible. Something like Opencode with OpenRouter with Deepseek 4.1 from ZDR provider works very well and costs like 1/20th.
virpo 18 minutes ago
1) Claude ($100) + Codex ($20) seems to be a sweet spot, with Codex being able to generate images and do reviews of Claude's code
2) If I want to do, say, summaries at scale, I reach for Gemini 3.5 Flash Lite
3) CMUX with folders per project + Stream Deck that shows me which agent has finished :)
4) Just Opus 5.5 orchestrating its subagents
5) Hermes. I find at least one 24/7 machine with agent running, that you can reach from anywhere to be worth it. As your personal assistant.
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nfriedly 13 minutes ago
My day job has a Claude account, but for personal projects, I have been playing with different models and environments on my home server. My current setup is Qwen 3.8 Flash Next, Strata, and OpenCode/OpenChamber.
I already had a bunch of my projects on the server with with code-server (VS code in a browser) set up to access it, so switching between code-server and OpenChamber is just switching tabs.
However, I've mostly been managing it from my phone - the OpenChamber app is awesome. I still switch back to my laptop occasionally - it's a better interface for reading and writing code, and also the desktop OpenChamber app has a built-in browser that it can manage, which comes in handy.
Oh, and separate from all that, I have Facebook muse set to automatically lower prices on a couple things I have on FB marketplace.
eamonnsullivan an hour ago
I'm (somewhat unexpectedly) retiring [1] soon and need to come up with an affordable setup for when I no longer have an organisation paying for my tokens. I use Github Copilot through work, which is actually not bad, but the affordable personal subscription doesn't include many of the models I like to use. I tried Claude, Codex, DeepSeek, and a few others. I think I'm settling on the following:
1. OpenCode Console (I think this used to be called Zen). It's a pay-as-you-go system, but I get access to almost any model at open market rates. I'll then set up an affordable regular monthly top-up. I looked at OpenCode Go, but that had the same issue as Copilot: access to only a subset of the cheaper models.
2. I use the OpenCode TUI and desktop app sometimes, for general questions or exploring, but I mostly use Editor Code Assistant [2] with Emacs as my go-to harness. I've set up ECA to use OpenCode as a provider, which was a little fiddly compared with more mainstream options, but it's working now.
My needs will (probably) be light in retirement, but I like to use models to add features to Emacs, write scripts, work on a couple of small websites and maybe dabble in progressive web apps or mobile apps for a food bank I help run. This setup gives me flexibility (lots of models to try) and won't break the bank, I hope.
On the subject of OpenCode Go, I believe OpenCode lets you switch between Go models and normal models on the fly. You could choose to go for a Go sub to use DeepSeek 4.1 flash at its subsidized subscription price until you hit the cap if you'd like to save some extra money. The 10$ sub gets me quite a bit of distance for hobby work, though might run out for you if you program for longer periods.
At the very least, you can benefit from the subsidized prices for smaller models as implementers, and use other subs or Zen/Console to access stronger models for planning and reviews. Something to consider at least, there are definitely ways to min/max of you're looking to squeeze extra value out.
sam345 39 minutes ago
I'm getting a ton done with Sonnet 5.5 basic Claude subscription.. It seems a lot people are overpaying on their subscription. Sonnet is what anthropic recommends for most things. I also added a cursor subscription before they raise prices to $16 a month on annual plan for the year. I do hours a day on Claude on medium effort and I have rarely hit any limits. I use opus 5.5 as an advisor. I am doing websites, and automation between different systems. Works great.
hsuduebc2 31 minutes ago
People, (me included) absolutely are using more powerful models than they need to. The amount of work that Luna can successfully and cheaply deliver is ridiculous.
thefourthchime a day ago
It used to be more interesting and elaborate, switching between different models. I used to use Cursor, then Codex, but since Opus 5.5 came out, I just use the Claude IDE. I got rid of all my skills and just set it to medium. Then I vaguely talk to it about very high-end things that I want, and it comes back with magic. Rinse and repeat.
I'd say the biggest trick is just to tell it what complete looks like. Be very specific about what you want it to come back with once it's done. That gives it a good idea what the goal is. It'll automatically create subagents and all that stuff. Although if you have money to burn and you're doing something large, you can tell it to just go wide or boil the ocean.
Also, make sure you're working on at least five different things. Otherwise, you're sitting around for one agent.
sparklingmango 21 hours ago
I firmly believe that those using out-of-the-box Claude Code or Codex are likely getting the most cutting edge features of agents anyways.
2001zhaozhao 13 hours ago
Yep, Claude & Codex desktop are innovating extremely rapidly. Some of the features like code review are hidden under commands, but basically obsolete whole heaps of AI code review startups when you use them.
smashed 10 hours ago
I just ask Claude code to do a code review of PR X and it spawns a sub-agent. No hidden commands or anything special.
If I hint it might be security sensitive code, it bumps the effort level and burns my usage.
But it works quite well.
The findings are often debatable or unreachable states but it does find stuff and improves the overall quality I find.
What's funny though is that it almost always inevitably finds something wrong, even if you just ran it in another window and fixed everything it found. There is really a point of diminishing returns.
0x4e 12 hours ago
I’m a user of both and don’t really see the need to go anywhere else. It all just sounds like mumbo jumbo.
As a solopreneur of a boring SMB.
I still do coding and build my own tools but I don’t see the need for agent swarms or Muse or Grok Bot or any of that.
The reason why I stay away is because I like to do QA on the slop these things generate. Having them run amok just makes me nervous.
persavon 21 hours ago
What do you mean by Claude IDE?
yuppiepuppie 21 hours ago
Yeah I was thrown off by that as well. I assume they mean just Claude TUI..
sabas123 21 hours ago
I have a similar story as OP, for me its the Claude Desktop, not claude code.
Yeah, I used to hate the Claude desktop app's Code tab, but it's actually pretty good nowadays. I actually prefer it now over claude CLI.
iainmerrick 4 hours ago
I use Claude Code Web almost exclusively for personal projects -- I’m guessing that’s pretty much the same interface but in the cloud -- and hardly ever run anything locally. Nicer UI than a terminal, real sandboxing, and it doesn’t tie up my computer. It’s just a remote agent that can make GitHub PRs.
OJFord 3 hours ago
But even worse for private stuff than using cloud inference to begin with, since it presumably has to clone the repo, have write & Actions access back, etc.
iainmerrick 3 hours ago
It's bad if you're concerned about your data being used for training, sure. But I don't think any worse than e.g. running Claude or Codex locally.
I think the only solution there is self-hosted inference (either local, or on your own cloud servers with open weights).
fhub 13 hours ago
I can do 5 things concurrently for about a day max. 3 things concurrently all week and my weekends are spent untangling my brain. 3 things per day on Mondays and Tuesdays and 2 things per day concurrently on Wed-Fri and I feel ok but crave holidays.
thefourthchime 13 hours ago
I probably have some kind of pysccosis. I've had a personal $200 plan from one of the AI providers since March 2026. I'm never not making things now, I haven't rebooted my laptop for weeks because there is always an agent building something.
I cycle between 4-5 work projects and 2-3 personal projects. Every night I tell me agents I'll be going to bed and to not ask questions and keep going. I've always loved building things, but this feels more like an addiction than healthy sometimes.
They're not all done, and half the projects I bench, but this is where my personal projects live. https://wooten-labs.com
abrookewood 10 hours ago
Nice website :)
glennfiedler 10 hours ago
> I probably have some kind of pysccosis
No you don’t. You are doing everything right :)
pavas 7 hours ago
Honestly it does sound like an addiction. Touch some grass...
coffeesoda 5 hours ago
respect. this is how i've been working the last 4 months or so. it's a bit crazy making and i do think i'm enjoying things less because i'm preoccupied, but i sure do feel productive. lol.
abhishekbasu 5 hours ago
love the website, but quality control is important when working with these agents.
not gonna lie, you don't need to be doing these projects. they're not really worth it. instead of building an app to help you meet up with your friends somewhere central just go meet up with them and explore together.
senordevnyc an hour ago
Eww, gross. Don't be rude.
themoose8 2 hours ago
They look like awesome apps*, as long as you're balancing your time by using them (they're outdoorsy and social!) I'd say you're doing fine. Take some extended time off if you need!
*unfortunately I'm android
gausswho an hour ago
I like your landing page for Stealthbox. Playful and stylistically distinct. Wears its AI generated origins with casual pride.
I do wish the Github link wasn't borked.
bkaae 18 minutes ago
I hope you are doing okay bud, sounds like you are doing too much.
biggestriverman 5 hours ago
I had the same issue. What you need in a management system for your claude sessions.
bluerooibos 8 hours ago
> Claude IDE
Claude Desktop's UI seems pretty similar to Cursor now, almost. I'm still on Cursor but if I use it daily I often hit usage limits before the end of the month. Would you say using Claude directly is better bang for buck?
senordevnyc an hour ago
I switched from Cursor to Claude Code (via T3.codes) because I was running out of usage on Grok 4.7. I regret not making the switch sooner, Opus 5.5 is much better than Grok, and Grok is decent!
onion2k 6 hours ago
Same journey for me, although I still use skills. Claude Code is fine; the remote-control feature is why I stick with it now. Generally anything in the cloud doesn't have a proper GPU that supports WebGPU, and as nice as SwiftShader is often you want to actually run things on a real machine. remote-control is by far the easiest way to do that from my phone.
bartread 41 minutes ago
> I got rid of all my skills and just set it to medium.
Yeah, exactly. I find increasingly little use for skills. I'd put it down to switching projects and stacks a lot but maybe... they just aren't as useful any more?
parkersweb 35 minutes ago
I wasn’t really using skills but then our project management tool added an MCP so I made a skill for grabbing tickets from the backlog, creating worktrees with the right naming convention, and moving ticket states for me automatically.
At the same time when I’m exploring new feature requests I now use the skill to write up the requirements and estimates into as many tickets as needed.
Massively changed my workflow for me.
tomburgs 2 hours ago
1.) None anymore. They're all turning into increasingly poor value for (my) money. I need AI on my own schedule and don't want to be paying for compute I don't need and end up waiting for limits to reset when I do need it. If I was to use one though it'd probably be Opencode Go.
2.) Yes, I'm currently using OpenRouter. It's good for quickly switching around and trying different models, but I currently have it constrained to just 3 models and 1 provider. Truthfully I could just use that provider directly, but I like retaining some flexibility.
3.) I've been using OpenCode for over a year. I think it's an incredible tool and its wide support is a massive boon. It's really easy to pull in skills, tag the skills, and switch providers. Their more recent changes turning the CLI into more of a GUI has been quite annoying (wdym I have to tap an X in my CLI to close a tab), but not enough for me to (yet) look elsewhere.
4.) Nope, no idea what those are but thanks for teaching me about something new.
5.) In EU (DK) so we don't get access to Dots or Muse like everyone else. I have used Grok Bot and I really like it. It's super helpful and I'm using it as a personal assistant. I delegate tasks to it that I just can't be bothered doing manually or can't figure out easily (e.g using some accounting tools, figuring out cryptic documentation, etc.). I've also used Hermes Agent, but I didn't like it as much. It's great intent but the UI/UX is really not it. It looks like it was taken out of a 90s hacker movie and I'm sure some people like it, but I prefer tools that look polished and focused. I might switch back to it though if something was to happen to Grok Bot.
P.S the models I primarily use are DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 and GLM 5.3 Flash. If you use skills to their full potential they feel SotA to me (my reference point for SotA being OpenAI models we use at work, since we have an enterprise agreement).
SkidVis 15 minutes ago
1) Claude ($100) and ChatGPT ($20)
2) No.
3) I mainly use Claude as my main, Pi (with ChatGPT) for any automations.
I manage them all with herdr. I cd into a path, kick off a claude/codex/pi session, then kill the session and manage it from anywhere with iceghost. (https://github.com/sharkjets/iceghost)
4) Negative.
5) I tried openclaw but found it a waste of my already scarce tokens. :D
I build my own runners when I need a loop or cron-based automation.
totalhack 26 minutes ago
I use the Local harness in vs code with a GitHub copilot max plan. Gives access to the best models from OpenAI and Anthropic (I use 6.1 sol, Astra, and opus 5.5 for most things). The Local harness has granular keep/undo and nice interface in general for reviewing changes, which is important for mission critical code. Unfortunately the copilot team is trying to force the less capable, more YOLO-mode "copilot" harness on people going forward. The community is somewhat getting them to walk that back but they seem to be missing the mark on what differentiates their product until people complain.
I also use chatgpt desktop for some tasks through a chatgpt teams/business plan. I briefly tried to set up codex cloud and it was a mess, not following startup instructions so I gave up.
glennfiedler 7 hours ago
I'm juggling multiple claude ultra subs, multiple codex $500 a month subs, antigravity for argon, plus API rate deepseek 4.1 flash, mercury 3, and abliterated large v2 for red teaming.
With just this message bus, I can coordinate AIs to work together at a normal pace (worktrees, subtasks etc...), but past a certain point the AIs can't keep up and I need to use a sprint card system I developed to coordinate work.
With this sprint system I'm able to work 200 cards wide (each card is around 30-60 minutes of LLM work in a session) across a fleet of 20 machines linked together with tailscale and ssh.
It's been very effective at getting high throughput, but afterwards I find that the resulting code can be a bit of a pastiche from different models working in isolation, thus a good pass over working directly with models to clean up and harden the code is necessary.
I find that using nova-bus to coordinate multiple model/harness review of codebase in very effective at increasing code quality. Each model sees things the others don't.
genxy 7 hours ago
Is this amalgamation working on a single project? What harnesses do you use? How are you using mercury 3? How much and what kind of work are you sending to deepseek?
glennfiedler 6 hours ago
Can't work on a single project, Amdahl's law gets you then. Try to work on as many different unrelated projects as possible, so I can get maximum throughput.
I break work up into four loose tiers:
1. flash - deepseek flash 4.1 / luna / haiku
2. pro - mercury 3 / terra / sonnet
3. heavy - opus 5.5 / sol
4. frontier - fable 5.1 / astra / argon
The decision of how to classify each piece of work is done by the coordinator (typically Opus 5.5...). If a card fails at a particular tier, it's going to get escalated up tiers until it gets sorted.
Each card has multiple readers (code review). I find mercury is very good at reading quickly. Deepseek as well. I will be honest, I think for 99% of stuff I need to do Opus 5.5 @ medium is ideal. I just use the additional models for different points of view, especially the absolute frontier models fable, astra, argon at max effort for security audits and code review.
glennfiedler 6 hours ago
The sort of work I pass through this system, it's mostly library work for multiplayer games.
For example, my work on schema, my protobufs/flatbuffers language replacement for multiplayer games, parallelizes very nicely across 15 languages on the sprint system. https://github.com/mas-bandwidth/schema.
I did some prototype games, one thing that worked really well for me was having a deterministic replay system where the agents could drive the gamestate via recorded inputs. Kept me from having to do any playtesting or debugging in the main agentic loop.
Cool! I’d forgotten until now, but I had that exact idea back in the stone age, 10 or 15 years ago, and started working on it but got bogged down. It was clearly feasible but a huge amount of work, too much to justify the cost. So it’s a perfect job for coding agents now. Nice one!
I do you think now need to watch out for the opposite problem. These things become so easy to build that the temptation is just to go ahead and build. But unless you really do need them, all that new code just goes to waste. The cost to produce has become very low, but sometimes the value can end up being negative.
Tepix 2 hours ago
Interesting. Are you also targeting WebTransport for both reliable and unreliable transport?
teekert 3 hours ago
What kind of "things" are you making? I can't process this much information, so I would inevitable be outsourcing most decision making. That could be fine for some products, but not for mine, where data model and RBAC model (among others) all require alignment between multiple stakeholders.
I have one agent and already find it quite intense to outsource code writing and basically just make and document decisions.
I feel like I could be rich working like you, I also feel like it is impossible for me to meet the needs of my clients if I'd work like this (so I can't be rich, it's a paradox). I wouldn't be able to answer their questions (without the active agent on-call, context window fully loaded), I wouldn't be able to explain just where the data model needs changing, or why some role really can't exist they way they envision etc, etc, etc.
I could of course branch the whole project and basically discuss multiple implementations during stakeholder meetings, but then still I'd need to explain the advantages/disadvantage of choosing one system over the other and guide them through it.
teekert 12 minutes ago
So, in essence, my added value is translating the vaque demands of my clients into as efficient as system as can be.
Can the AI do it? Not yet I think. Maybe someday, for now I feel like client of mine simply do not have the vocabulary to guide the LLMs. Ie they have no idea of what one-to-many is, or why it's smart to put some information in separate tables, where as some is ok to filter row-based on a user attribute, etc.
tegeek 31 minutes ago
I've Kiro and Antigravity installed both are vs code but forked by Amazon and Google and brought their multi agentic coding environments. Then I installed Claude extention on both. I follow spec-driven approach (https://kiro.dev/docs/specs/) all agents are instructed to follow it strictly. When I plan sometimes I evalute all specs with Kiro, Gemini and Cluade. Each has their share of work and improvements, each spec in my case end up as requirments, design and tasks.md files. Most of the code is generated by Claude and Gemini Argon and its pretty solid.
ryanthedev 23 minutes ago
1: personal ultra and I have subs through each company I consult with. I also have subs to all other models as well. Cheaper tiers. Daily is opus. Use other models for other work.
2: only some decision models for testing. Experimentation.
3: herdr and all cli.
4: all custom built. Yes.
5: yes my own. - personal assistant.
An example. I can feed it shorts and create one pagers.
My workflow has changed since the 5.5 models dropped. They need less skills and guardrails.
I can set up my orchestrator to run unattended for longer with simpler goals.
castwide 3 hours ago
> 1) What AI subscriptions are you personally paying for? (Claude, ChatGPT/Codex, Cursor, etc)
None. I've used Claude and GitHub Copilot in the past.
> 2) Are you using models outside (or instead) of those subscriptions? For example, pay-as-you-go APIs, OpenRouter, or locally hosted models.
I'm currently using Qwen3.8-Flash-Next on local hardware.
> 3) What coding harnesses and interfaces are you using? Are you sticking with the default CLIs or IDE integrations, or using alternatives like OpenCode, Pi, Aider, Muse Code, or custom-built harnesses?
I occasionally use Cline in VS Code, but it's rare.
> 4) Are you using any agent orchestration or swarm tools?
No.
> 5) Are you using broader agent platforms like OpenClaw / Hermes Agent / Grok bot / Dots / Muse?
I built custom agents on top of RubyLLM. I primarily communicate with them via email. One of them has access to a Redmine project board where it can pick up tasks and complete assignments. That agent also has non-sudo access to a sandbox container for development.
earthdeity 9 hours ago
Claude + Codex, both from work.
Just those.
https://github.com/oscscull/quarterdeck built my own harness. I had trouble with both claude and codex. In particular, managing multiple tasks in a kanban, syncing between my machines, making sure work is done on the right machine and can be triggered from either. Making sure I ping reviewers, meeting reminders, todos. Parking tickets til conditions are met or time elapses. Automated notifications when I have meetings. I have just kept adding features as I want them. This kind of software is so easy to make nowadays, I don't really think there's any sense in "launching" it for others, but I'm using it all the time. I highly recommend doing so (building your own personal work management software in 2026).
I guess this is also in some sense an agent orchestration tool, I don't use any of those.
Don't use.
exodust 6 hours ago
> building your own personal work management software in 2026
Agree. I made my own "project tracker", does exactly what I want. Zero clutter. Zero mention of deadlines or due dates.
flaburgan an hour ago
I use the Zed IDE with Opus 5.5 pro subscription. I use to have access to Fable with the max plan and I miss it, despite what everyone is saying I still find that Opus does weird things. Just yesterday I pointed it to a queue suddenly being twice slower to be processed in prod. A select SQL query called thousands of times per minute became slower because of a data increased. Opus proposed several non trivial ways to optimize the query by forcing some execution plan. I just kept the result in a variable for one minute, as the data don't change often. x1000 perf with 3 lines of code. I would have expected it to say that this query didn't have to be executed that many times in the first place. It codes well when you tell it what to do, but it is still dumb about what is the real problem (and so the real solution).
That's worrying me a bit because Opus 5.5 clearly is SOTA, so better than any open weights models, and I really want to be able to run smart models locally on my laptop for independence and privacy reasons. So, if I still find Opus dumb now, when will I have an open weight model better than 5.5 that can run on my Ryzen 7 AI 350 with its Radeon 860m and 32GB of RAM? ... This summer with all the releases of DeepSeek and Qwen I was hopeful I could have it for Christmas, but it looks like I will have to wait much more...
Feathercrown 7 hours ago
I figure my experience might be uncommon here so I'll offer it: None, no, none, no, no.
svieira 7 hours ago
There are perhaps more dozens of us than we expect, eh?
ex-aws-dude 6 hours ago
This thread is super biased by the power users, they are the most excited to share
indigo945 5 hours ago
What is your job and how do you do it?
wkjagt 3 hours ago
Same for me. Since I quit tech (professionally) about 5 years ago, I was never part of the AI thing. I still write a lot of code, but I enjoy coding, so I don't use AI.
stinos 3 hours ago
Having tried LLMs for coding a couple of times in the last couple of years, this used to be me until about a month ago.
Then I again tried Claude Code and OpenCode with a local (due to work I cannot use anything else, moreover wouldn't want to either) Qwen3.8 and behold: my current stance now is that _not_ using something like that, if you can, is missing out on a great tool.
And maybe it's because of the way I use it (in essence: to take care of what is the slowest bit of the process for me which is the typing and the find/replace and other repetitive stuff), but I really cannot come up with any sane reason not to use it.
lf88 9 minutes ago
Same for me. I have adopted a "zero usage" policy for the moment. In part it's because I am too worried about the long-term effects of cognitive offloading. In part it's because I don't want to support in any way the development of a technology that I believe is becoming a serious threat to humanity. And there are also things that I enjoy doing, like coding, solving problems, or writing in my own style, which I simply don't want to delegate to a machine.
dofm 11 hours ago
1) none
2) Local LLMs on an M1 Max (Unsloth, LM Studio, occasionally direct llama.cpp). Muse Glimmer (because it is good at what it is optimised for: interactive coding sessions). Qwen 3.8 27B occasionally and a couple of other things for fun (an LFM MoE, experimenting with Nemotron Bolt 74B-9B, enjoying the really super Gemma 4 12B QAT when working on creative photography research or non-code planning).
No openrouter (yet) but that will definitely happen.
3) Currently focusing my attentions on Pi via Paseo (and trying Pendant). Pi is just much better in smaller context sizes, and it is the right fit if you are keen to learn from first principles.
I tried OpenCode first. I couldn’t quite get on with it and what ultimately made me switch was trying to understand its terribly messy source code.
4, 5) I am mostly using AI as a coding sidekick so I don’t really have much need for orchestration yet. I did some experiments with Osaurus (really quite impressive) and I actually think that is almost enough by itself, except that I want a little more control over the sandbox container.
I feel that my usage pattern is still settling, because I am not keen to surrender all of my coding to the machine. But I am trying more purely “directed” coding to learn the process, and finally beginning to get a feel for how I will work with that.
seanmcdirmid 11 hours ago
- Antigravity (AGY - Google Ultra $100/month), mostly gemeni flash but I benchmark Gemini Astra sometimes. My main driver because it’s pretty good at search compared to setting something up with DSH.
- DeepSeekHarness (DSH) Desktop using:
—- with pay as you go DeepSeek tokens, more expensive to use during my night/Chinese daytime, otherwise very cheap
—- oMLX on my MacBook driving mostly a Qwen 3.6 35b A3b MOE (mostly used for benchmarking a less capable model)
I mostly do custom subagent programming and can trigger subagents in AGY and DSH easily enough. DSH supports a Python coordinator orchestrating DSH subagents as conversations via RPC. AGY only supports a sub-agent orchestrating other sub-agents but it works well enough at this point. I plan on releasing my subagent framework soon (called autofab in pypi), which is basically a specification driven code development agent system (using existing agent harnesses rather than implementing my own).
I tried goose, OpenClaw, Claude, codex, etc…and they didn’t really work for what I needed. I might get a $100/month ChatGPT subscription to go with my Google one, primarily to get a different perspective and benchmark openAI models on codex (Claude doesn’t really support what I need it to, otherwise would go for that instead).
zkmon an hour ago
Tried the popular agents and paid models for some time, and now settled with a local model (Qwen3.8-27B-Q_6) and opencode desktop.
My work doesn't really require ultra super-intelligent models, or one-shot solutions. It's a standard python API, web app and some strict compliance requirements and tons of test cases. I have time to give the Q27B a few iterations. I monitor the progress and give directions while it keeps chugging off for about 30 mins for each medium-hard task. But I like the results. Exactly what is needed. It also allows me work on high-level stuff.
Kuyawa 12 hours ago
DeepSeek Harness using DeepSeek Flash API
Nothing else, DS is smart enough to do everything I ask for and more, never hallucinates and never disappoints. Apps in Rust, Swift, Node, we even designed a new language better suited for LLMs, a compiler, and it runs beautifully. Haven't coded a single line since May 2026 and I will remember that date as the day AI took over my mundane job as programmer and promoted me to architect or director of my own apps
A custom plugin to ring a bell whenever a task is finished and a gong when a question needs an answer, that way I can play backgammon or mahjong in the meantime
I can't be happier
seanmcdirmid 11 hours ago
+1 for DSH, it really should be getting more attention here. The only problem I have with it is getting search to work, but now DeepSeek has a solution, though you have to pay for it soon.
jonwinstanley 8 hours ago
I’ve found Pi with DeepSeek Flash is excellent, and seems to be about 90% cheaper than Opus or Fable.
fsiefken 6 hours ago
DSH user here as well, what new language is better suited for LLMs? Is it open source? Is it still as readable as rust or python?
siva7 32 minutes ago
That's the spirit we need and not more of those crying from the majority about "evil ai took my programmer job and love for coding away" to make all equally feeling miserable.
itsloopyo an hour ago
1) Claude ultra. I ended up using 3 accounts in tandem for some big work I needed to do recently, but the other 2 accounts were only open for a month.
2) I have a cheap OpenAI sub I sometimes use codex on, but just for small tasks when I'm out of tokens on Claude
3) Lab - a frontend I made that let's me run loads of chats in a single UI, I get notified when they need me, if I turn off my PC and load it back up everything picks up where it left off. It'll run compound workflows comprised of multiple prompts+macros, and centrally manages all my agents/skills and MCP servers - they're associated with projects, categories of project etc and rolled out to everyone when changes are made.
4) Hivemind - another one of mine, hivemind's a small self contained binary that acts as a collaboration layer for the agents+me. I send messages to everyone, groups or individuals. They can also ping me and send me desktop notifications if they need me urgently. I get a lot of mileage out of this where file reservations, resource locking etc are concerned. Stops them stepping on each others' toes.
5) No, 100% of my work takes place in Lab (with loads of Claude + Hivemind sessions under the hood)
dgunay 8 hours ago
I use AI primarily through work, I don't pay for a personal AI sub.
I do have some OpenRouter credits but I mostly use them sparingly to try open weight models out for small personal projects.
I currently interact primarily with Claude Code, but most of my async workers are on Codex.
The orchestration part is custom. I talk to a "chief of staff" Opus instance to ingest various workstreams (Jira tickets, alerts, personal ideas, etc) and turn them into beads. It launches workers to tackle individual beads using Remuda, an agent launcher I wrote at work in 2025 and open sourced earlier this year: https://github.com/yendo-eng/remuda. I configure profiles in Remuda that launch containerized agents using my preferred harness and model. I update these profiles as the pareto frontier shifts. Currently it's GPT 6 Luna max for most tasks.
It monitors the workers and has them go through at least one round of agentic code review. It surfaces PRs for me to read once they've passed agent review. It then either ships them or hands them off to my coworkers for codebases where I'm not allowed to just merge PRs.
Around this workflow I had it write a small collection of skills and scripts to grease the wheels and make repetitive actions more reliable.
Since Remuda supports several terminal multiplexers, I've swapped out the backend 3 times: tmux -> herdr-tui -> herdr-core. There's experimental support for Rex but I'm waiting for it to mature a bit before I try and daily drive it.
It's not nearly as polished as some of the software factory setups and fancy GUI orchestrators I'm seeing, but it's light, hackable, and so far the bitter lesson has kept this working really well for me so I haven't felt much of a need to try anything else.
I have been trying out Muse for a while but it hasn't found a solid place in my life yet. Still too unreliable and too many privacy concerns to justify giving it a lot of access.
pelagicAustral an hour ago
1 - Deepseek for non-important stuff, 50 bucks seems to last forever. Claude annual 200 bucks sub (my main one), and Gemini 20 buck a month sub to complement Claude when i run out of usage. There is some kind of extra Argon allowance at the moment, so it's pretty solid.
2 - Deepseek is my pay as you go one... I only use it for small stuff, mostly as a way to validate API use on some implementations.
3 - Claude code and antygravity, I have not gotten anywhere near one of the other harnesses, i see them as the React of AI.
4 - No
5 - No
jeswin 13 hours ago
1) I use 2x ChatGPT Pro 200, and a Claude Max 200.
2) I use other models via Open Router, but ChatGPT beats them in value (at the moment) thanks to Tibo's resets.
3) I mostly make Claude coordinate a group of Codex agents. They've set up a communication channel between them, and Claude acts as the coordinator and a second verifier. This saves me time because it's easier to talk to one agent than a group of agents. Codex parent session does only "comms" with Claude, and all the other agents run as sub agents.
4) For non coding usecases, I use https://www.ctlflow.com. This lets me run dozens of agents on tasks like equity analysis. The information a swarm of agents can surface from a large data store can be quite surprising.
5) I have tested OpenClaw, but now I just use ctlflow.com or claude + codex.
Scrounger 12 hours ago
> 4) For non coding usecases, I use https://www.ctlflow.com. This lets me run dozens of agents on tasks like equity analysis. The information a swarm of agents can surface from a large data store can be quite surprising.
Can you tell me more about #4 regarding what your heuristics, methods, and use cases are for equity analysis?
I ask because currently I am building a narrow use case Python app using Claude specifically to filter equities that may have an asymmetric potential to buy LEAP options exceeding 1-2+ years.
I am not a finance/quant bro, but I do want to get better at leveraging AI to be a better investor.
Thanks!
chaostheory 11 hours ago
> 3) I mostly make Claude coordinate a group of Codex agents.
Same here. Are you just using a skill or something else. Beyond direct CLI calls to each other, I’m using contextify to share past sessions between them.
jcubic 40 minutes ago
I use Claude Code with Opus 5.5 via ACP inside the GNU Emacs Agent-Shell.
I used Open Code, but they stopped supporting Claude, so I was searching for something different (I had a free 20x Max plan as an open source maintainer). First used Claude Code and then found out about Agent-Shell. Now I'm using the Claude Pro plan.
haizhung 6 hours ago
I use pi as a harness, and Paseo as a Mac UI (because I need a Ui).
I tried a bunch of models, but so far deepseek flash from October is just dirt cheap; and roughly on par with the frontier open weight models.
It’s still somewhat behind closed weight models (I only know Gemini Argon) in that it produces lots of text that is approximately correct —- frontier models seem to be very good at producing concise text that’s very correct.
I pay per token, using an EU hosting provider (melious.ai).
But I can fill in the gaps myself, so for me developing for fun, this is enough.
shafyy 6 hours ago
Are you happy with melious.ai? Are there any other EU inference providers you have tried?
tavos 5 hours ago
I use Melious as well, haven't had any issues so far.
shafyy 5 hours ago
Nice! Just heard about them here for the first time, but will give it a try. Model selection looks good and pricing seems fair!
haizhung 5 hours ago
I was on tensorx.ai first, but melious’ deepseek offering is way cheaper. I switched to them, no issues so far.