About ERICI
ERICI is a non-commercial initiative in its founding phase. It is not yet a legal entity, sells nothing and charges no fees.
dragoncrab an hour ago
About ERICI
ERICI is a non-commercial initiative in its founding phase. It is not yet a legal entity, sells nothing and charges no fees.
cbolton 2 hours ago
revengerwizard 2 hours ago
Great idea, but if the important EU players aren't there, what's the point?
hn_submit 2 hours ago
I just purchased a boatload of Chinese RISC-V development boards for about $2.30 a piece. Can't wait to start playing with them.
"RISC(-V) architecture is going to change everything."
asdfsa32 2 hours ago
sigmoid10 2 hours ago
glimshe 2 hours ago
lioeters an hour ago
What's important in the context of a European "sovereign computing" initiative is the licensing of the instruction set architecture. Like x86, ARM is still proprietary, while RISC-V is a free and open standard.
pepperoni_pizza an hour ago
Imustaskforhelp 36 minutes ago
Saudi Arabia did recently invest 45 billion dollars in the vision fund which is an investment fund managed by Softbank but they haven't really invested within Softbank itself so not it is not mostly owned by Saudis from what the data can tell.
hn_submit an hour ago
Even though it's Japanese-owned most of their R&D still takes place in England.
hn_submit 2 hours ago
All they want is to suck on the government's tit.
myrmidon 29 minutes ago
This is like comparing an 48MHz ARM-Cortex-M0 with the CPU in your Macbook. Yes both of them are ARM cores, but the small embedded processor has very little RAM/Flash/clockspeed, no memory management unit, no cache, no modern RAM interface.
Not even the instruction set is really the same, because you (typically) won't even have floating point instructions/registers on the small MCUs, much less vector instructions.
The Milk-V Jupiter 2 mentioned in the post is basically a full-fledged Desktop CPU and it's price is not gonna be anywhere close to $2 either...
clarionbell 2 hours ago
ShadowOfThePit 4 hours ago
> A machine that runs for 15 years needs software that can be maintained for 15 years.
I don't quite understand. Has this been a problem for industrial machines? Can't they already run for 30 years and more?
What exactly is this initiative looking to fix and improve? Besides of the basic idea of FOSS being good, and whatever.
rurifi33 3 hours ago
The industry can barely keep an npm update from breaking the world now.. and that’s build tools and environments and so it’s independent of “we use stable languages”
Now add the possibility of political sanctions on ISA licensing and you have -
Hardware that’s fails quicker and may not be available to buy, software that barely builds months later, and a world where the US president can sanction entities at will if they don’t comply…
Yeah, open source isn’t all that’s required
renszarv 3 hours ago
InvisibleUp 3 hours ago
perarneng 4 hours ago
vaylian 4 hours ago
jabl 3 hours ago
perarneng 2 hours ago
rurifi33 3 hours ago
perarneng 2 hours ago
Havoc 2 hours ago
blitzar 2 hours ago
wvbdmp 2 hours ago
usrnm an hour ago
PowerElectronix an hour ago
hollowonepl 4 hours ago
So.. it's a bit funny to read there is an European Initiative... to promote Chinese computer appliances.
In times when fridges with Chinese electronics that are phoning home become more hack-able today than ever..
csmantle 3 hours ago
> Hardware
> RVA23 SoC with IOMMU
> SpacemiT K3
> 8× X100 cores, hypervisor extension, IOMMU
hollowonepl an hour ago
And no, I’m not American, nor I think Americans can be trusted more these days in the race of global surveillance programs.
But having open, patent free standards is noble. I love the idea.
pjmlp 3 hours ago
In fact several countries do support Huawei store in addition to Apple and Google ones, including having the usual bank apps available there.
GoblinSlayer 2 hours ago
hollowonepl an hour ago
dcreater 6 hours ago
soltanov 6 hours ago
dcreater 5 hours ago
exit 5 hours ago
jsumn 4 hours ago
anonzzzies 5 hours ago
minetest2048 4 hours ago
soltanov 4 hours ago
nine_k 5 hours ago
Does it sound like a typical LLM-generated text? In many areas, it does. But why would I care? This is not expected to be a piece of literary art. Equally, the pictures illustrating it are not artistic masterpieces, and aren't expected to be. And even the letters in the text are not carefully handwritten by a human but machine-generated.
Get used to it, and get past it. It's not worth the attention.
orphereus 5 hours ago
isolli 4 hours ago
"RVA23 silicon has arrived. The industrial computer built on it has not."
"Until recently it lacked what industrial systems need. That has changed."
So tiresome...
ShadowOfThePit 4 hours ago
"An industrial computer has to do more: survive the control cabinet, talk to the field, and stay available for a decade or longer."
Do people think this sounds good?
And what if it does, but you and I are just tired from seeing it everywhere?
orbifold 2 hours ago
asdfsa32 2 hours ago
IshKebab 2 hours ago
ur-whale 2 hours ago
So European, right?
I'm immediately thinking: there's got to be some sort of sovereign aspect to the initiative ... right?
I mean, if there's one place you want a silicon stack that wasn't manufactured in China, it's most definitely in the guts of your industrial infrastructure (assuming you still have one, yes, point taken).
But, if you look at the "The silicon is here." section and dig a little:
> "Shenzhen MilkV Technology Co., Ltd" [1]
Wake me up when someone can actually build a computer from scratch with EU-made parts.
lioeters 2 hours ago
What would it take to make this possible, if not completely then at least move in the right direction?
Aside from re-thinking computer manufacturing from the ground up.. RISC-V, or something like it, seems like the right idea as part of the solution.
numpad0 2 hours ago
vanviegen 2 hours ago
That may be a high bar. Would all countries in the world collaborating, except for China, Taiwan and South Korea, even be able to do this?
0l 4 hours ago
goobatrooba 4 hours ago
> EPI demonstrated several results just after the Phase 2 end in 2026.[11] SiPearl demonstrated the Rhea1 chip running a complete HPC software stack. The system booted on a test board, with a standard Linux distribution running with high-speed HBM memories and their associated hardware performance monitoring counters. It successfully executed the HPL and STREAM benchmarks, demonstrating the readiness of the complete Rhea1 hardware and software ecosystem for HPC workloads to power Exascale systems. Rhea1 features 80 arm® Neoverse V1 cores, more than 61 billion transistors (7.8 billion equivalent gates), built-in High Bandwidth Memory, with 4 stacks of HBM, 4 DDR5 interfaces supporting 2 DIMMs Per Channel, and 104 lanes of PCIe Gen5 interface: up to 6 x 16 lanes + 2 x 4 lanes. Rhea1 was selected for implementation in Jupiter, Europe’s first exascale supercomputer. The next version, Rhea2, was selected for implementation in Alice Recoque, the second European exascale supercomputer.
And then more paragraphs how work was taken forward..
snvzz 4 hours ago
jimbob45 2 hours ago
cbolton 29 minutes ago
We're probably getting to a point where AIs will just generate optimized binaries directly, so I'd rather have them generate them in a machine language that is human friendly. RISC-V being designed by humans with a focus on simplicity is close to the best we could wish for.