The only candidate that would be more practical that I know of is cache complexity for cache oblivious algorithms but that’s much more complicated.
Efficient algorithms, the Exponential Time Hypothesis, and losing the plot (argmin.net)
inkysigma an hour ago
throwaway713 2 hours ago
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dist-epoch an hour ago
I would like to point out that there is also no proof of God not existing either
shiandow an hour ago
throw-qqqqq an hour ago
E.g. the observable universe is finite. Its observable age is finite. The number of known elementary particle types is finite. The number of particles within the observable universe is finite (according to the current understanding). Etc.
There are many examples.
Do we disagree on this, or am I perhaps misunderstanding your position here?
tancop 25 minutes ago
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lioeters 21 minutes ago
Or provaly infinite.
karmakurtisaani an hour ago
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QuesnayJr 4 hours ago
It would be great to prove that there is or isn't a non-galactic polynomial-time algorithm for NP-complete problems. But we can't even solve the easier problem of proving there is or isn't a galactic polynomial-time algorithm, so what hope is there for the harder problem?
If you could prove that any polynomial-time algorithm for NP problems had to be galactic, you would be the most celebrated computer scientist since Turing. It's just no one has any idea how to do that.
karmakurtisaani 2 hours ago
Polynomials are closed under multiplication, so you can do a poly algorithms poly number of times and still have a poly algorithm. That's very convenient.
choeger 3 hours ago
Surely it cannot be necessary for the complexity result?!
yorwba 3 hours ago
podocarp 2 hours ago
Indeed I have met professors who claim since something is O(1) it doesn't matter if you run it 4 times. No need to optimize. I think it's just part of the wider divide between theory and application. For instance big O also requires a register machine to make sense, which most courses don't define. Somehow addition and multiplication are O(1) in some places and O(n) or O(n^2) somewhere else. Also quite common is the fact that sets are slower than lists for lookup for small n, despite being O(1).
It's just a tool and we shouldn't miss the trees for the forest. I also understand this comment has nothing to do with the ETH or the article, but just some thoughts I have after reading the first chunk on complexity
nonadhocproblem 2 hours ago
dist-epoch an hour ago
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perching_aix an hour ago
Not sure why the hostility anyways. If appreciating TCS results really is a higher brow activity, then GP's indignation at computational models shouldn't upset you, quite the opposite. It's definitionally the normal experience.
And while I do find the blogpost in the OP trite, that is mostly because it's from someone who should absolutely be more intimate with the subject than such "midwitted code monkeys" (aka. normal people) you refer to, yet pretends to feel duped by OAI's results. Quite the different case, and I think is much more worthy of ridicule as a result. They're the high brow who should be appreciating, understanding, yet fail to.
lioeters 2 hours ago
I think the common expression is to miss the forest (big picture) for the trees (details). But maybe you're playing on words and saying we shouldn't let the big picture (big O notation/analysis) obscure our attention to the details (an algorithm's actual efficiency and performance).
calf 3 hours ago
npinsker 3 hours ago
The complaint that these algorithms aren't "realistic" is ostensibly valid, but you could just as well aim that cannon at 95%+ of math research too. Complexity theory is interesting and fun. Isn't that enough?
calf 2 hours ago
It is not to say the approach has been wrong (as the author strongly believes in his reframing) but that this clarity does matter for purposes of, ahem, mathematical understanding.
traes 4 hours ago
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perching_aix 4 hours ago
Very gonzo, but maybe I prefer to learn about these things with a little less circlejerk.