The Agent SDK (cursor.com)
gawacer 2 hours ago
fullstackwife 15 minutes ago
"Deploy" section of that article makes the difference.
h0rv 8 hours ago
chrisvalleybay 8 hours ago
Qworg 8 hours ago
chrisvalleybay 8 hours ago
The cheaper agents never really matter, because the Max subscription costs me $100 and that is less than an hour of pay. In some cases the customer even pays for the subscription.
But I do love the idea of being able to use Pi or OpenCode. I am a heavy terminal user, and used Vim/Tmux/Lazygit-types of workflows before coding agents were in the terminal, so I do love customizability and portability. Right now there is just too much ground-shift to take part in it. Better to wait it out.
javier123454321 6 hours ago
julesrms 8 hours ago
I make one (https://github.com/juggler-ai/juggler) and it'll auto-detect and use your claude CLI. I use that claude plan for 90% of my work, plus a bit of GPT, I just prefer to do it inside a nicer, less locked-in environment than claude.
There's really no moat around proprietary closed harnesses, it's trivial to jump between them, but people need to be aware that it's possible!
behnamoh 8 hours ago
julesrms 8 hours ago
svachalek 3 hours ago
1broseidon 2 hours ago
aenis 8 hours ago
duckqlz 3 hours ago
ramoz 8 hours ago
jatins 8 hours ago
lifeisloving 8 hours ago
ramoz 8 hours ago
joshheitzman 5 hours ago
Several perhaps, but you definitely aren't using all coding harnesses actively.
mkw5053 8 hours ago
ramoz 8 hours ago
csallen 5 hours ago
zf00002 4 hours ago
InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago
ramoz an hour ago
Building an exceptional harness requires exceptional understanding of the technology you are harnessing.
Ant is building Claude Code in a place of frontier knowledge and advancement - everything surrounding the tool at Anthropic is something that does not exist within any "open source" organization. OC has recruited exceptional developer and new-media talent, but they have largely developed from a "catchup/copy" and designer-led process, and have consistently been behind in terms of capabilities and/or have misaligned implementation due to what I would classify as disadvantages of not understanding the underlying technology fully. I think this has led to a lot of unintended bloat - maintaining a plugin for it has been consistently very head-scratching experience.
- Pi was a refreshing welcome to the OSS arena with thoughtful design to enable simplicity and ecosystem-based development
In October 2026 - Claude Code feels further stretched ahead. The orchestration/projects model you get with sub agents either in the cloud/remote or local is the strongest capability I have experienced in awhile. Beyond the model intelligence the harness has been consistently refined and now includes things like Mods for robust customization. OC is pushing through big milestone release, not advancing on the front in terms of agentic engineering ux. Who came up with MCP, Slack/Claude Tag interface paradigm (less about slack), dynamic workflows, durable subagents, agent-to-agent communication across the harness, etc
giancarlostoro 8 hours ago
yako21000 8 hours ago
giancarlostoro 7 hours ago
NezArk 5 hours ago
We build a desktop app on top of the SDK, so I've spent a lot of time on that page.
hedgehog 5 hours ago
lxembourg 5 hours ago
hedgehog 4 hours ago
InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago
hedgehog an hour ago
dichiara19 39 minutes ago
mellab2 2 hours ago
InsideOutSanta 3 hours ago
threecheese an hour ago
sodacanner 8 hours ago
Benjammer 5 hours ago
verdverm 5 hours ago
More and more harnesses are headed this way, there are two notable holdouts.
csallen 5 hours ago
2. Lots of people are used to Claude Code's interface/commands/etc. and don't feel like paying the cost of learning something new. The benefits would have to outweigh those switching costs, and it's unclear that they do.
3. Claude Code already works with your Claude MAX subscription[0], which gives you an incredible amount of usage of the top-tier models for cheap, which can't be matched by any open-source options. And most people won't exhaust this usage, so they have no real need to use open-source models.
4. Although it's hard to 100% confirm this, there's reason to believe that Claude itself works better with Claude Code than with other harnesses.
5. There's no real lock-in. If tomorrow you decide you don't want to use Claude Code, you can just switch to something else ezpz. So there's no reason to worry that you're digging a hole and locking yourself in. Thus, there's no urgency to switch away.
[0] Yes, open-source harnesses can use your Claude MAX subscription, but does this "benefit" of open-source harnesses really outweigh the costs of #1, #2, and #4 above?
htrp 4 hours ago
I thought this was pretty much well established that all of the labs have model - harness pairings for exactly this reason
Whale Paper. https://arxiv.org/abs/2609.00196
EMNLP talk from like 2 weeks ago https://aclanthology.org/2026.findings-emnlp.2207/
csallen 2 hours ago
dingdong2026 3 hours ago
csallen 2 hours ago
cabernal 3 hours ago
dingdong2026 3 hours ago
Correct me if I'm wrong, but using Pi etc you're paying the full API price.
bz_bz_bz 3 hours ago
vallerie 3 hours ago
claude setup-token
;)tinykerneldev 2 hours ago
youniverse 2 hours ago
everforward an hour ago
Eg an agent that only runs off a webhook trigger doesn’t have a use for all the UI stuff Pi does (and you may not want the local state like Pi does by default).
I’m still sort of with you, I’d generally do ACP to an open source agent. You do get much finer grained control if you use one of these agent SDKs (there’s a bajillion of these as well).
fallks 6 hours ago
ActionHank 3 hours ago
scosman 9 hours ago
Raed667 8 hours ago
NorthSouthNorth 5 hours ago
pookeh 2 hours ago
verdverm 5 hours ago
ADK has a graph/workflow concept too: https://adk.dev/graphs/
threecheese an hour ago
giovannibonetti 20 minutes ago
asdev an hour ago
threecheese an hour ago
jeremyjh 40 minutes ago
So a few people started using grok bot and I'll probably regret that some day, but honestly the deployment model they have here for custom agents is kind of appealing to me, much more than BigLang.
asdev 32 minutes ago
jeremyjh 18 minutes ago
outlore an hour ago
docheinestages 2 hours ago
thedangler 9 hours ago
And a lot of the apps are the same thing.
It's going to be a race to the bottom.
username_my1 9 hours ago
Literally everyday there is a new tool and the tools released last week are deprecated.
gonzalohm 9 hours ago
fg137 8 hours ago
simianwords 8 hours ago
I'm not sure if that's what you mean but I know many that are making their own flow like this and think that this brings in a higher level of performance..
andyfilms1 8 hours ago
jst1fthsdys 6 hours ago
kentm 3 hours ago
Sure, but how are you measuring this?
tikotus 8 hours ago
I feel like people are going down that slippery slope with harnesses and skills and what not. With the right prompt, and with the right model, and with a sprinkle of magic, the solution will emerge. Oh, it didn't? Let's see if there's a new model available, or if someone has come up with a new clever skill or something. Maybe then... Because actually solving annoying problems is not fun, even less so now that the code is a black box only the LLM can understand.
dutchbart 5 hours ago
tikotus 9 minutes ago
rafaelRiv 5 hours ago
lifeisloving 8 hours ago
banorton 8 hours ago
andy55a 6 hours ago
kkukshtel 4 hours ago
At the same time, the lack of this makes it then very easy for me to tune out harness noise.
virgil_disgr4ce 8 hours ago
Why is a large number of ideas, technologies, frameworks, etc. bad?
lifeisloving 8 hours ago
esafak 8 hours ago
panzagl 7 hours ago
QuantumNomad_ 8 hours ago
wslh 8 hours ago
I think the difference is that those endless technologies will probably be used by other agents without people's explicit knowledge.
maxdo 8 hours ago
Cursor moving this direction, is a prep work where human no longer command that much , hence the usage will drop. e.g. their core product is vulnerable. Software factories, is the ultimate game over for our industry.
dangoodmanUT 8 hours ago
pscanf 9 hours ago
hippycruncher22 8 hours ago
randomblock1 8 hours ago
holistio 8 hours ago
Meanwhile, we know Grok Bot was really Cursor beforehand... it must be wild in there.
_andrei_ 5 hours ago
mikert89 8 hours ago
athorax 8 hours ago
simianwords 9 hours ago
Is it to have boundaries of some determinism?
ashishmax31 8 hours ago
This "runtime" is what you are building with LangChain.. A harness like claude code/codex etc is general purpose and its env is a shell + tools. But with a custom runtime (basically a loop where we ask llm what to do next), we can give it specific tools which we define in code. This can help with things like authorization since, well its custom code you own.. so the runtime gets the tools scoped to the users permissions etc.
zomtorg 8 hours ago
The entrypoint still has to come from somewhere, and it's much more convenient to be able to explain the security and legal teams how data is handled, what is logged, how you can have control over a scenario where the agent does something unexpected.
Sure, for a personal project that could be enough, but we all know those companies target enterprise customers, and you would be surprised how little adoption there is when it comes to workflow automation due to the lack of controls.
asim 2 hours ago
imtringued 4 hours ago