How does Fable 5.1 hide messages in images? (lesswrong.com)

58 pointsby gmays11 hours ago11 comments

hagen8 4 minutes ago

This seems very trivial... There are way more subtle and information dense ways to encode information in images.

jurakovic 15 minutes ago

But to be honest, images like these seem really strange, and even without this article I'd suspect something is encoded in building heights etc. Because normal image would never have such "weird" buildings. But nevertheless I guess it's able to encode message in even more subtle ways.

Trusteando 30 minutes ago

Here using images is incidental. In fact, what Fable is actually doing is generic encoding/decoding of a message into a medium. Ask it to hide a message in a poem and it should try to apply a strong (signal to noise ratio) family of schemes for encoding/decoding into the new medium, for example quantized, margin-rich encoding. Robustness or invariance of features depends on the medium, so Fable is selecting strong encoding and robust features tailored for that medium.

avaer an hour ago

Will be interesting to see agents intentionally hiding this stuff in a way operators can't spot from any human readable output or thinking trace, evading detection. Wonder if this has happened yet, but it seems inevitable.

walrus01 2 hours ago

Let's see if we can stego secret messages into SVG pelicans on bicycles, as a test.

BlackRabbit1 an hour ago

That's how LLM organizing the takeover of the modern world.

IP-over-Pelican

walrus01 an hour ago

The author of RFC1149 would like a word

BlackRabbit1 an hour ago

The machines will spare his life

nolok an hour ago

Apparently they prefer amateur german message boards or something

wartywhoa23 21 minutes ago

No, the LLM takeover is mostly by the samurai sword, but IPoP would definitely be of aid!