Sites in ChatGPT (chatgpt.com)

167 pointsby polvia day ago195 comments

nathanfig 5 hours ago

I have been using Sites a few months now, really underrated feature IMO. Any time I get a quick app idea I just hand it off to Sites and usually get a working prototype within the hour.

For example, here's a game where you are a mouse hunting for cheese in higher dimensional mazes: https://manifold-six-axis-escape.nathan338932.chatgpt.site/

Idea came to me while at a concert, was ready to play that same night.

svachalek 5 hours ago

Wow that game makes my head hurt. Cool idea!

nathanfig 5 hours ago

Thanks! Yeah I find it helps to jump back down to lower (comprehensible) dimensions, move closer at that level, then jump back up.

Puppies4Life 4 hours ago

Melted my brain. 10/10.

Juvination 4 hours ago

I made it through the 6th puzzle, it was a lot of fun. I basically just stayed in 3 dimensions until I had to move up and then went back to 3.

nathanfig 3 hours ago

Yeah I think moving up and down dimensions is the best strategy. I find spamming movements in 6D works but only because the paths are dense enough.

jr3592 4 hours ago

pretty fun! beat level 6 after about 4 minutes... should add some more levels :)

nathanfig 3 hours ago

Yeah if I were to make it harder I would introduce more sparse connections requiring the user to actually understand the layout, right now you can kind of "feel" your way towards the cheese. Most brutal maze would be one with only one possible path and lots of backtracking required.

Maybe I'll do that and post to HN later, didn't expect this much response!

tomtom1337 3 hours ago

Really cool idea! Beat level 6! I'm still not sure how to explain how it is showing more than 3 dimensions on a 2D screen though! Would be nice to be able to choose which dimensions are represented at the various N-dimensions, but the UI might be tricky to get nice.

nathanfig 3 hours ago

Yeah you have actually picked up on something that the game intentionally does to help the user: If the cheese can be reached by any of the dimensions you are currently on, then it will ensure that dimension is in the subset of dimensions you receive when you go down a dimension.

Otherwise I'd have to introduce some kind of dimension picker. Maybe a fun hardmode.

tomtom1337 3 hours ago

Oh I see! Thanks for explaining that - I did notice that sometimes a subset that I didn't expect was chosen.

Did the LLM explain its reasoning for how it is showing the higher dimensions? Or perhaps this is a standard way of attempting to display higher dimensional space?

nathanfig an hour ago

I didn't ask about standard representations, but I think the graph representation works well when paired with the discrete moves this maze allows. If we wanted continuous spaces it would probably be harder to play and harder to represent, but maybe more interesting.

rednb 3 hours ago

Polished and easy to use website builders have been around for a long time, from Wordpress all the way to Wix.

The fact is, most people aren't builders and never will be. Building software is about formalizing and automating processes, and 95% of folks aren't interested in putting even the most basic effort into improving their business by approching it at a strategic level. Too focused on keeping the lights on and/or more interested in field operations.

For another example look at the many businesses using @gmail addresses to run their business while Google Workplace has streamlined custom domains for a while.

So in practice, ChatGPT Sites will mainly enable software agencies to build websites and offload maintenance to the customer : just manage it from your ChatGPT account. The equivalent of Bring your own cloud for Mom and Pop businesses, and other small companies. Not even sure ChatGPT Sites will create meaningful downward pressure on agency rates.

Lesson learned the hard way.

throwaway314155 3 hours ago

Oh come on. Sure, it might not be a production-capable system. But comparing an Astra 6/Sol 6.1 powered sites to wordpress and wix is apples and oranges.

rednb 3 hours ago

An Astra powered site is your representation of a polished and capable business website. For the average joe, a Wix website fits the bill, their representation is not the same as yours. They focus on items such as whether or not the theme is beautiful.

estearum 3 hours ago

I would bet there’s a (very) nontrivial number of people who have attempted to build something in Wix etc and got bogged down and frustrated enough to quit.

Lots.

I’m a pretty sophisticated user (both a designer and software engineer) and I’ve ragequit several of these tools before.

sixtyj 2 hours ago

I recommend to all my customers - publish and use your own domain.

CuriouslyC 2 hours ago

I hate Wix. I tried it to see if it could streamline things for me about a year and a half ago, and I quickly realized I could set up an Eleventy site, customize it and host it way faster. Now that agents are better and Cloudflare's API is fully exposed, I can have the agent search for a domain, buy it, set it up, set up the site and get it working on pages and probably be done before Wix onboarding was even complete.

hollowturtle an hour ago

I mean Wordpress been around for decades, it’s solid, mature and everywhere. I’d even say way better than any vibe coded site

jmathai 9 minutes ago

I tried to set up a Wordpress site for someone last month. I suggested it because of the reasons you said.

I’m convinced that’s the only reason Wordpress is still popular. The administrative experience was atrocious. Actually, that is an understatement.

xcafebabe 2 hours ago

could not agree more! most people really aren't builders. AI enables builders

maxgashkov an hour ago

> Polished and easy to use website builders have been around for a long time, from Wordpress all the way to Wix.

The issue with the Wordpress and Wix is that the site stay polished for approximately 1 second after it has been initially published. In 6mo~1yr it's unmaintainable pile of dogshit that is easier to redo from scratch.

bgirard 3 hours ago

Same. I went to a music festival and their website was hard to use, and the schedule was difficult to understand. And the area had bad connectivity. A few prompts and I was able to build a much better offline site.

sixtyj 2 hours ago

*.chatgpt.site - I see many dead sites in very near future.

Is it possible to export site to own domain?

riffic 2 hours ago

From what I can tell, "Sites" product supports custom domains so it's not an "export" per se but it is a way to map.

https://learn.chatgpt.com/docs/sites?surface=web#connect-a-c...

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001339-creating-and-us...

nathanfig 2 hours ago

Yes, I've exported and self-hosted in the past. I'll sometimes use Sites to mockup something and then I'll download and pass it onto another agent for use in something bigger.

financetechbro 2 hours ago

Super fun game!

nashashmi an hour ago

Got so annoyed at this game. +/- Y should be up and down. Gets confusing with x being the same way.

jwpapi 2 hours ago

People seem calm in here, but I really now think is replacing a lot of industries. Like Website Designer. I totally see people asking chatgpt to build them a website instead of paying them 2,000 USD.

Soon it will connect to Ads and it will runs for it as well.

Honestly since Opus 5.5, Opus is my interface for 95% off my work. I don’t open emails anymore i let it summarize draft and handle most of the work and I only talk to Claude and not read/write the emails myself.

I also barely go in analytics dashboards anymore, Most I do is creating artifacts to explain if text is not enough for me to understand.

I’m going to bed. I have analytics running for every cancellation on my software to see what goes on. I have a/b tests running that are getting interpreted automatically. My bugs are getting fixed automatically.

I can monitor my competitors and copy every feature a/b test resolution they’ve done instantly for (3$ of my budget)

I’m an early adaptor of the latest models. The labs will have better tools already, but it really feels like a breaking point. What’s normal for me today is normal for more tomorrow and the friction has never been lower...

Interesting..

cjonas 2 hours ago

Once everyone operates as you do, then websites will have little value. Just publish a .md file or API if you have interactivity.

jwpapi 2 hours ago

I’m aware.

LeBit an hour ago

You don’t mind letting a company get 100% access to your personal data?

Unless you use a zero data retention inferencer?

kolinko an hour ago

Most people host their data on cloud anyway. Once you turn off training there is no difference to storing data with OpenAI/Anthropic vs Google or Meta.

toddmorey an hour ago

It's a fascinating case of use our product to build websites & apps until we can get our product to entirely replace websites & apps.

AI is this strange double-threat for folks in software development: attacking both the demand and supply at the same time.

Me, I don't think they are super eager to be a hosting platform even though this is a very logical extension for them. I think they're hoping this is a catalyst to make login with OpenAI as ubiquitous as login with Google.

dash2 3 hours ago

Look at the "beneath the surface" example. Click on a creature close-up. Click the "rotate creature" button. The creature's rectangular jpeg, complete with black background, rotates on screen. No 3d or anything. This is their demo! It has that Potemkin village quality, much like AI apps, code, and answers.

bonoboTP 3 hours ago

They forgot to add "make the creatures rotate in 3D" to the prompt.

MisterMunchkin 42 minutes ago

They probably slopcoded the entire post including the examples, so nobody human even touched any of it or tested it before posting it.

ameliaquining 3 hours ago

I wonder if they'll combine this with the currently-in-closed-beta Sign In with ChatGPT to let people make sites that can make inference calls that get charged to the user's ChatGPT subscription rather than the site owner's API billing account, like Claude Artifacts already lets you do. That would synergize well with ChatGPT Sites being generally more robust and feature-complete than Claude Artifacts.

vatsachak 2 hours ago

The idea is great but the websites shown as examples are clearly made by AI because they make no sense.

Current AI is NOT going to replace web devs or coders because it cannot tabula rasa make human sense. I suspect the reverse with a Jevons thingy happening

tripleee 2 hours ago

If you have a product manager directing the AI (instead of developers) to build what they want then it will make sense.

vatsachak 2 hours ago

But then you quickly have tech debt build up because current LLMs cant plan over long scales

tripleee 2 hours ago

They don't do it by default all the time but if prompted to they're pretty good at designing and refactoring code

I'm increasingly finding my job is just making sure they don't go off the rails, and if they do it's a small effort of getting them back on track

vatsachak an hour ago

I think you're underestimating your own role in making sure they are not going off the rails haha

tripleee 39 minutes ago

yeah, I hope you're right. I find it hard to imagine how non or mildly-technical people would use it differently

vatsachak 25 minutes ago

Stuff like a wrapper over Plaid and some OCR is definitely dead for sure.

But currently they can't manage a vending machine as good as human, so I doubt they have our centuries long planning ability

kolinko an hour ago

Tech debt when doing a website? If it’s just a CMS, Claude and Codex are more than capable of building and maintaining it.

Also, planning over long scales is not something you should do if you do lean/agile. Premature optimization is a root of all evil ;)

vatsachak 26 minutes ago

I don't think that Claude or Codex could build and maintain a CMS as of yet.

Software is mostly in the last 5% of work

bananaflag 5 hours ago

This is probably going to be hugely successful with the majority of the population.

copperx 5 hours ago

It's a matter of weeks/months before they'll host a complete webapp, not just a site. The Saaspocalypse will be complete.

Fergusonb 5 hours ago

I think this has always been the end result - when the user can enter a business problem and it spins up a site, and they don't have to think about the hosting, database, app, etc.

Vibe coding full circle

And it will be good enough for 90% of use cases.

avs733 5 hours ago

given the percentage of business processes that still run on a manually updated spreadsheet, I am not sure that is actually worse.

It is likely better in some ways and worse in others...and few of hte people involved will have the understanding to tell the difference.

carlosjobim 4 hours ago

And whose neck can you choke when an error from the AI generated site forces you to refund customers or something worse?

bushbaba 3 hours ago

Its not for those uses cases. though. THink about squarespace/wix hosting all the company landing pages, restaurant menus, daycares. This will replace it.

camdenreslink 2 hours ago

In my area many of those use cases are handled by Facebook pages already. For the general public this might still seem too technical.

datsci_est_2015 2 hours ago

> And it will be good enough for 90% of use cases.

I think it’ll just raise the automation bar that much higher. In other words, it will be good enough for 90% of yesterday’s use-cases. But tomorrow’s? I’m bearish.

I imagine the amount of onerous bureaucracy when interacting with any entity is going to explode if they expect you to do it in an automated fashion, for both private companies and the government. Especially as roles are cut because they can be “automated”. Except only 80% of the workload can be reliably automated, the other 20% requires a long tail of effort.

axus 5 hours ago

Except for the companies that pay anti-competition money to OpenAI: cloning their applications will be restricted.

nathanfig 4 hours ago

I mean, with a Cloudflare API key you can pretty much already do that. But keeping your data straight and putting in the right authentication guards, etc. are all still where the business problems meet technical and the AI is not enough unless the agent is both architect and customer.

andix 4 hours ago

I don't think this provides a lot of value for more complex applications. It just lowers the bar for getting started.

Once the app gets a bit more complex, it won't be that much different to any more traditionally vibe coded application (code, git/pr, test, deploy, ops). It only removes the barrier to get started, but doesn't solve any of the real problems. Problems like AI slop, code rot, bad architecture, security issues, data loss/breach because of bad code, and so on.

nozzlegear 4 hours ago

The Saaspocalypse was a wet fart that never went anywhere. People aren't using these AI tools to kill or replace SaaS at their jobs as much as HN wants us to believe.

https://www.stripeeconomics.com/p/the-saaspocalypse-was-more...

ameliaquining 3 hours ago

The argument there wasn't that everyone everywhere would use individually customized software* instead of packaged SaaS; it was that, because AI greatly reduces the cost of building an internal app or service, it improves enterprises' BATNA when dealing with SaaS vendors, which means surplus will shift from producers to consumers. It's not obvious to me that that's not happening, since it may have been masked by a general increase in automation since AI also synergizes significantly with SaaS. (The Stripe Economics post gets into this a little, though it's mostly less curious than I'd like about why the "SaaSpocalypse" didn't materialize. Of course, Stripe has an economic interest here.)

* Some people do think this (e.g., https://sockpuppet.org/blog/2026/09/25/what-even-is-an-os-no...), but I remain somewhat skeptical that this'll be true for the most economically significant applications. This is not because I'm an AI capabilities skeptic (I'm not, I'm more of a doomer), but because even in a world where AI is designing and implementing all the software, there are probably still significant benefits to standardization. I see it as sort of analogous to compilers; we might get a world where compilers are both used and maintained almost exclusively by LLMs, but we probably won't get one where compilers stop being used or maintained at all because LLMs write everything in assembly.

tripledry 2 hours ago

In stuff like wikis and ticket systems what I see is people now just making their own little tools around the ones we already use, this arguably just sements their position even deeper.

Also I dont get the inhouse argument, you dont really save anything. So instead of paying X to SaaS, you now propose to pay X to anthropic instead AND maintain said SaaS... what? how is that better, that just shifted the cost to another company and you got the burden of maintenance and responsibility.

ameliaquining an hour ago

I don't understand which part of my comment, if any, you're disagreeing with.

jr3592 4 hours ago

Honest question for devs out there... is anyone worried? I don't see enough frank conversation happening around this subject. Timelines. How long until salaries fall? Is it too early to stalk thinking about back up plans? Am I crazy?

dyauspitr 4 hours ago

Coding is probably solved. Honestly it’s probably going to be 5 years of runtime starting now depending on industry lag and uptake.

A team I was managing spent a whole year converting government forms into a web app. It took a while and there was a lot of discussion with the end users and a bunch of back and forth (keep in mind this is government software with a lot of onerous legal requirements). Then about 4 months ago, we just fed Codex the forms, along with the UI design and the legal requirements and it spat it out in 1 hour. Was it perfect? No. But our iterative loop became make the web app, show it to end users and then incorporate feedback and completely cut out the UX team, product etc. We were able to complete the conversion in 2 weeks with one guy (something like 150+ government forms/applications). For most simple to medium corporate development work it’s basically over.

bushbaba 3 hours ago

You'll need less people but not no people.

dyauspitr 3 hours ago

Yeah, probably 10% of our current workforce is all that’s needed.

bushbaba 3 hours ago

You could argue this was true prior to AI. A lot of the workforce is doing questionable value bureaucracy

jr3592 3 hours ago

We're in a similar boat. Entire eng team went full AI about a year ago, and honestly we're struggling to find things to do. Features that would take weeks, take minutes.

I just don't see how we keep going like this without layoffs. The company cannot responsibly continue paying for this many engineers, when half, or less, could do the same job.

win311fwg 3 hours ago

> honestly we're struggling to find things to do.

I have been the lone developer on a project for quite some time and was already feeling that way. Yet, recently found out that a second is being added to the team and a third is to come. I guess I'll enjoy what is effectively a paid vacation before it all comes crumbling down.

creata 3 hours ago

Serious question from a consumer of software: if software can be improved so effortlessly now, why isn't it getting better?

Like, why is it all still so buggy? Why does no website seem to consider 96 PPI displays in its design? Why don't we have ostensibly useful features like undo trees everywhere? Why is everything still a RAM hog? Why does the proportion of websites that pay no heed to accessibility seem to be going up rather than down?

I'm told we're living in the future, but it sure doesn't feel like it.

tripleee 3 hours ago

Because those don't increase business revenue. People aren't making their buying decisions off that

win311fwg 3 hours ago

> why isn't it getting better?

Lack of information. When you are on the building side you become blind to its faults. Consumers almost never tell you what isn't good about it.

> why is it all still so buggy?

Also lack of information. I haven't seen any bugs in years in the things I've worked on. LLMs have closed every last obvious testing gap, squashing any outstanding bugs there. That's not to say it is all bug-free now, but what bugs users may be experiencing aren't being reported.

AI is good at building software, but it is still not good at consuming software like actual consumers do.

copperx 3 hours ago

Because it hasn't been that long since the November singularity.

jr3592 2 hours ago

For the same reason that increasing headcount never really solved the bug problem.

Flawless software isn't the goal, ever. Feature development is almost always the primary goal, and fixing bugs and performance issues is only done if the bug is bad enough.

creata 2 hours ago

I don't think you're wrong overall, and it jives with tripleee's reply, but I don't think wanting end-user software to be less buggy than it currently is is asking for "flawless" software.

gopher_space 3 hours ago

If your company isn't throwing you into R&D right now everyone is looking at layoffs. You are no longer in an environment where doing "the same job" will keep you afloat.

aduwah 3 hours ago

In a corporate environment the ability to code does not substitute a decent software engineer.

bartekrutkowski 3 hours ago

I've said it before but I'll repeat it here until someone changes my mind: jobs in IT are safe until using AI gets its equivalent of "no one ever got fired for buying IBM". Until there can be financial and legal responsibility for when things go bad, people are going to be needed. Once it's so good AI labs will be happy to accept liability, it's game over. It was never about code quality.

tripleee 3 hours ago

You're not crazy. I think there's still room for the top 5% of devs working on genuinely hard technical problems.. but I don't see a bright future for the rest.

ActionHank 3 hours ago

No. Saas hedge is to offer solid api + mcp for agents to use whilst still maintaining their own products alongside. That's it, that's the whole thing.

Are you going to trust a vendor who has been running for years with your business critical operations or brad_69's awesome saas skills and agents? Do you think these businesses are going to shift their whole product to be in Altman's walled garden when they don't need to?

weitendorf 3 hours ago

There’s going to be a lot of chaos at some point but I think that “hybrid builders” (scientists, sales people, product developers, etc). true specialists, and new opportunities in hw/robotics/training/ will soak up a lot of talent, and be rewarding to work in. Feels very sadly k-shaped.

Software engineering on one end is going to be more like finance or medicine where the cost of poor performance is actually higher than the risk that they wont be worth what you pay them (ie there isn’t any amount of pay where it’s worth it to hire them). Then on the other it’ll be like knowing how to use PowerPoint. All the new tech categories have too many bottlenecks and challenges beyond just producing code to consolidate like that.

vlucas 2 hours ago

Nah. Website builders have been around for a long time in various forms. This isn't much different.

codingdave 2 hours ago

Slapping up a slop website is no threat to professional tech folk.

When they have full DevOps, with multiple environments for testing, compliance with security best practices, can do database updates and data migrations, move the app smoothly between different platforms, streamline costs, and scale to at least hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of users without crashing and burning... then go ahead and worry. We aren't anywhere near that.

On the other hand, if you are purely a coder, and cannot run a project that does all of the above... maybe start your worrying earlier.

win311fwg 2 hours ago

> We aren't anywhere near that.

We aren't, but the AI Labs no doubt are. They just can't release it right now because their bread and butter is still developers burning tokens, so there is still a business problem to solve.

CuriouslyC 2 hours ago

Salaries won't fall, they'll go up. The number of roles is what'll fall. SWE is going to become a giant game of musical chairs, and people who can't find a seat will get pushed into human facing roles ("product" / "technical sales" / "customer support" ).

fassssst 4 hours ago

It is a complete web app, with a Cloudflare backend.

corytheboyd 4 hours ago

On one hand, I am incredibly tired of seeing the absolute train wreck of waste that is suave founders taking millions and blowing it on hundreds of personnel who do practically nothing— especially having seen what a single person can do with these tools.

On the other hand, death of a livelihood in a social structure that doesn’t care about you.

We’ve always had pump-and-dump trash. The terrible stuff loses and the good stuff wins. I don’t see why that would change.

The companies that ditch the management structures of yore and successfully build better software faster with the new tools will come out on top. I don’t think these companies will replace ALL saas subscriptions with in-house solutions, because one huge benefit of paying someone else to hold that bag is liability and regulatory overhead.

htrp 3 hours ago

look at the accounting firms, you'll just have four or five companies that switch off between who holds the bag

weitendorf 3 hours ago

They’ve both been working on this for a while, I’m surprised they still haven’t launched.

Domains, auth, and databases are probably the stickiest software products of all time. I suspect it’s a combo of security concerns and the risk of eroding goodwill among developers (their most important customer base rn) if they move up the stack too quickly. Once you know that the goal is to become cloud vendors, train on/compete with their own customers, and own the entire software stack e2e it’s hard to really feel grateful that they’re dragging it out but planning on doing it anyway.

For those of us working in infra/SaaS outside these companies it’s pretty clear that the only viable path that doesn’t involve getting cannibalized is training your own agents/models. The new coding agent-infra-data business model is a path towards full commoditization and undifferentiated prompting in 3-4 vertically integrated walled gardens. If you ever start making real money on pure software infra they’ll just be able to eat you alive by implementing something similar, training on their own tools rather than yours, and integrating it into their stack (which all of your customers are on already).

Also, you should only ever use $20-200/mo subscriptions on work you want them to train against or you don’t mind automate yourself out of. Think a little bit about what you’re teaching them to do when you use their products, especially if they’re the primary interface you’re working in. People are going to start caring about this a lot when the AI companies feel safe enough to begin the “extinguish” phase of AI coding. Train your own models!

dennisy 2 hours ago

This is truly depressing and most likely very true.

I do not see enough people discussing this and trying to position their businesses in a way to avoid destruction at the hands of the labs.

weitendorf 2 hours ago

It’s really only an existential problem for pure-software businesses/developers.

There’s a good chance that the next step after open weight models is something that makes it easier to post-train existing models on new workloads without running an entire pipeline just for yourself. Somebody has to actually build it though.

pazimzadeh 3 hours ago

What do you mean in a few months?

Yesterday my dot made a web app to view 3D microscopy files

https://mucus-atlas-viewer.pazimzadeh.chatgpt.site/?sample=k...

I didn't even know about the sites feature

owebmaster 4 hours ago

This is probably going to be as successful as Sora

dpkirchner 2 hours ago

The Sites feature seems a lot more monetizable than Sora ever could have been.

amelius 4 hours ago

Eternal AI September.

willmeyers 4 hours ago

Yeah, I'm seeing how I can move my dad's website to this so he can manage his site on his own.

devin 3 hours ago

I doubt it, but I am open to being wrong.

People curate their brands on socials. Having a website is not really the badge it once was, and the ability to generate them like this further reduces the social proof they used to provide.

weitendorf 2 hours ago

Look at squarespace + wix + lovable + framer + vercel + wordpress (and agencies), cloudflare, godaddy, etc. and think about how much more demand there is for a vertically integrated one stop shop without friction. This is a massive market even if it doesn’t become myspace.

This is the top of the funnel for most people building a tech product or marketing their business, so it’s very helpful if you intend to sell other services they might want to use down the line. (Cf Cloudflare except imagine if they also integrated ads into one of the most popular websites in the world)

fg137 an hour ago

You want to talk to a few guys not in the software industry to understand what the world is like first.

While there are many enthusiasts out there, lots and lots of people couldn't care less about ChatGPT allows them to "buuld their own website". It's simply irrelevant to their life.

rawgabbit an hour ago

I took it for a spin. I used Claude to create a self contained HTML file with JSON data embedded to create a SVG bar chart with sort and filter buttons. I then gave the HTML file to ChatGPT Work and it created the site using the provided HTML code unadulterated.

I then asked the next question. How can I automatically update the embedded JSON data. It gave two answers which I thought was weird. First, it said I could using a plugin to an MCP server. Second, it said I could use an API and when I asked for which API... it said there was an API available in ChatGPT Sites but no details. So I assume it can be done.

What I am thinking of is to use ChatGPT sites as a replacement for SharePoint. I can create self contained HTML charts and let employees view it within our enterprise instance of ChatGPT. The piece I am working on is how to automatically update the embedded data from our database.

londons_explore 21 hours ago

This seems to close a gap that both Claude and chatgpt had.

If you ask something like "please make a little website for me and my friends to plan our shopping lists on", I would expect the result to be:

"Here you go: https://shopping-lister.chatgpt.com/"

Unfortunately right now most AI models get into the weeds of asking the user to sign up to netlify or firebase or buying a domain etc - none of which most users are interested in doing.

nzoschke 4 hours ago

Looks very useful.

I’ve been using exe.dev to throw up micro sites. It has a built in web agent and first party mobile app agent. And any coding agent that can use “ssh” (all of them) can easily figure out how to drive it.

It also has a lot more developer and PaaS tools like GitHub integration.

RIP Heroku for imploding before the wave of vibe coding. We had the ability to “spin up a free app on the internet” before it was cool.

ttul an hour ago

Very polished. I suspect OpenAI will abandon this project at some point to focus on other core products. This kind of feature is great, but it spreads them thin, and other players like Cloudflare are rolling hard to provide this kind of convenience to agents with far greater depth. This is not a judgement against ChatGPT Sites - it's a well-executed product.

andrewguenther an hour ago

[Disclaimer, I work at OpenAI]

Sites has been one of the most valuable ships for us internally outside of general model releases imo. A few things that I think are incredibly underrated:

1. Plugin usage. I can build a site with some data vis and when someone else in the company logs in, it uses their access to evaluate those queries. The access model/BYO connection is really powerful.

2. Ephemeral sites. Setting up a site is so easy they can be ephemeral. I can set up a whole site for a presentation, or a complex form, or just a meme, and then never touch it again because it cost me basically none of my time.

3. Sites as plugins. Sites directly integrate with the plugin ecosystem in that a site itself can provide/be a plugin. Combine that with Sign in with Chat (byo subscription) and you can build some really cool experiences really easily. I've been working on a deck grader for Magic the Gathering the last few months for my own uses and now I could pretty trivially publish it as a site for others to use.

I don't see sites being abandoned any time soon :)

postatic 2 hours ago

I was imagining the other day what other "apps" that frontier labs can get into. If we had "Claude Mail" or "ChatGPT for Workspaces" it would be very interesting. Email service created by Claude, then docs (they have it already?) then all the business apps layer (heck integrate your vibe coded apps onto these! build your own slack, CRM)

If models are commoditized and apps is where the grab is - I actually wouldn't mind a new email provider - GMail has not practically changed in the last 10 years I feel.

yakkomajuri 2 hours ago

Something I've been thinking a lot about recently is how much we still need UIs vs if we'll just interact with agents.

We have a platform that enables building both and I still find UIs to be quite relevant. Especially if it's so easy to build like in this case because you can always throw together a visualization for something quickly and then never look at it again.

This looks really cool and because I'm in a tangential space I know how fun and useful it's been to build and host stuff on the web quickly.

We're geared towards fully-fledged (serverless) apps and agents for internal use only though, in case it's of interest to anyone: https://railcode.dev/

StrLght 5 hours ago

Looks like a jab at Lovable.

Wonder what domain they're going to pick next. I feel like many LLM-dependent businesses are going to get sherlocked by OpenAI and Anthropic.

zergrush 4 hours ago

honest question what is the sherlock proof business/app/saas we can do as independent builders

hard out here hard for startups too

micromacrofoot 4 hours ago

something with a real life physical component

awestroke 3 hours ago

something that solves a real problem for businesses, that you are uniquely positioned to execute on well. If you target the lowest common denominator, or consumers, or build something really quickly - good luck

demibabs 3 hours ago

If your business is just software… it might be cooked.

Sheeny96 2 hours ago

Idk about that, a company like Form3, Edenred etc are technically just software companies - but no one in their right mind is going to build a black box payment provider. Sure, if your business is wordpress websites, you're probably going to see a big downswing in new customers. But there is absolutely still going to be a place for highly specialised and security dependent software.

CuriouslyC 2 hours ago

Personal relationships, trust and a preexisting audience are your moat, from now until the end of time, in every field.

Aboutplants 5 hours ago

Gonna wager good money they attempt to relaunch Apps or something of the sort, where you build, launch, host within ChatGpt, seamlessly making it easier really soon.

Then the app economy gets going within ChatGPT

bluebands 4 hours ago

already did, you can host plugins on ChatGPT Sites now, announced at devday

sachinag 2 hours ago

Sites is so good that it’s changed my workflow - I start in Opus 5.5, have it write a plan to Google Docs in markdown, then have Codex pick up the plan, shave it down, and build the prototype. A little annoying to switch tools, annoying enough to only do this on desktop, but the output is fantastic.

limbor 2 hours ago

They are desperate to find a moat cause models aren’t much more than a commodity.

What they might not realise is that stuff/services like these (ChatGPT Sites) are probably not much of a moat either in a world where majority of population has access to increasingly better models capable of building competitors in days if not hours. Even if they restrict usage of their models when it comes to creating competitor services there will always be other models that you can use to build competitor.

What is happening is that their products are putting people out of work but at the same time they are also enabling anyone to easily build competitors to their own products and are thus putting their own services “out of work”. They are essentially eating their own tail. Ouroboros. Is noone seeing that?

The only truly lasting moat might be hardware/compute. At least for now.

sajithdilshan 4 hours ago

I’m getting dejavu. Is this the 2026 version of Yahoo GeoCities

kakugawa 4 hours ago

I love the concept, but the `.chatgpt.site` suffix reflexively makes me think of those early-2000s era sites.

frays an hour ago

Are there any significant differences between Claude Artifacts and this?

npilk 5 hours ago

My fun little project has been Sherlocked! https://weejur.com

For whatever reason most of the sites are Arabic-language prototypes for things like plumbing companies. I'm not sure why - if those are solving a real problem, or whether someone is running a scam, or what.

christoff12 5 hours ago

Very nice. I really like the design.

I got tired of spinning up repos for basic pages, so made my own host last year - https://pageplane.app.

I think the SEO/AEO agencies are using them to seed content for clients.

demibabs 3 hours ago

Cool project, but the hero art is a little strange (what is the dude on the left hammering? Aren’t the ones on the right both pulling the pulley down from opposite ends?)

Very clean site design though.

npilk 3 hours ago

Thanks! I think the fox is steadying the log as the raccoon hoists it. Agree the badger is sort of hammering the air, haha. The art was AI-generated but with some manual editing in Affinity, so hopefully it's not too sloppy.

charlesabarnes 3 hours ago

I think this is the next step in the evolution of AI based tools. We can develop the app or tool, but we need somewhere to easily publish it.

I actually recently shared my own version of this concept, but self hosted. I'm optimistic that there can't be much lock-in from the big providers, but I think there's a large market to capture

yellow_lead 5 hours ago

Funny how the showcased "Tidal house" has unreadable text on an image.

https://tidal-house-retreat.openai.chatgpt.site/

> Quiet cabins. A view of your own.

amne 5 hours ago

luckily that's a prompt away from being fix^H^H^Himproved

NicuCalcea 3 hours ago

Also, there's a missing space in "Look insideeach cabin" and "Save astay plan".

InvisibleUp 3 hours ago

They'd better be proactive with checking for abusive users, because I can easily see people trying to spin up honeypots, crypto miners, scam sites, etc. on this. Especially given that the hosting appears to be free with undefined CPU/RAM limits.

ChrisMarshallNY 4 hours ago

Looks good. Like most ChatGPT things, though, it will probably take good prompting and iteration, to ensure that the sites have individuality.

Still, I suspect a lot of independent Web developers are sweating. It was already getting tough, but this is a coffin nail.

c0rruptbytes 4 hours ago

i love sites

i make it for anything, i made one as a food guide for the UW chow down https://uw-chow-down-2026.corruptbytes.chatgpt.site/

jatins 5 hours ago

Probably the most underwhelming feature of Chatgpt. I dont know why its so slow and overall terrible as compared to Claude artifacts