A brief history of the Bloomberg terminal (spectrum.ieee.org)
rbanffy 10 hours ago
nxobject 9 hours ago
lolpython 8 hours ago
peterleiser 8 hours ago
lolpython 7 hours ago
bojangleslover 8 hours ago
Animats 4 hours ago
Of course. That's where all the hedge fund managers live.
There was one for visitor use at the Bank of America branch on Sand Hill Road in Silicon Valley at one time. But BofA closed that branch.
nxobject 43 minutes ago
peterleiser 8 hours ago
CamperBob2 7 hours ago
dingaling911 7 hours ago
squiffsquiff 6 hours ago
Animats 4 hours ago
Next week it will be in Bloomberg Business Week, long after it had trading value. Bloomberg has its own news collection and analysis operation, bigger than almost all US newspapers.
xp84 4 hours ago
LoganDark 6 hours ago
billywhizz 6 hours ago
jll29 6 hours ago
- real-time data on financial instrument prices;
- real-time news (own and syndicated);
- an email address ([email protected]) used to email and chat with other professionals on the Bloomberg network. This is like LinkedIn and WhatsApp combined for people in finance, and people can keep the address for two years after e.g. losing a job, so they can use the network to find a new role.
- analytical software: tools to calculate various KPIs to assess and analyze business opportunities.
- capability to transact: The BB terminal is not just an information system, it also permits you to buy and sell directly.
(My university has one BB terminal that MBA students can access and get training on.)
gleglegle 8 hours ago
rubyn00bie 9 hours ago
I really wish there was a resurgence of information dense UIs and tools, optimizing for people who use them daily and not “use it once.” It really reminds me of the hate folks have for things like Eclipse or IntelliJ which are daunting at first but once you get over the shock and learn them really are amazing tools.
apaprocki 9 hours ago
raldi 9 hours ago
apaprocki 8 hours ago
mandevil 8 hours ago
The difference is that Costco pays their employees well enough to keep them around (notice that Costco prints the start year on each employee badge- average retail length of service is 1 year, Costco keeps people around for decades) and so they can learn to use this older software and master it. Most retail operations optimize their inventory management for new people, because they don't expect someone to stick around long enough to master it.
My wife worked at a small regional chain of pharmacies that had an ancient MS-DOS based EHR system. And she mastered that system to the point where people would call her when she was home with me and ask her how to do something, and she would walk them through "okay, hit tab three times then shift-F12 then enter the frabble and then alt-F3 to go to the next screen and enter the drabble." It was difficult to learn it, but if you mastered it you could do everything you needed to do from just muscle memory while you were on the phone arguing with the doctor's office that their prescription was not correct and needed to be changed.
Then the small chain got bought by a national player and their brand new GUI system was brought in. It was a lot easier to learn- discoverability was a lot higher with menus and drop-downs and all of that. But if you stuck around to master it, you could never be as fast as you could with the older system. And that emphasis on quickly integrating new employees- but lower payoff for experience in employees- was clear in every choice that national chain made. They wanted their employees to be completely interchangeable, which meant that they didn't care if you had six months of experience or four years of experience or three decades of experience.
hylaride 8 hours ago
xp84 4 hours ago
The GUI also has lag - especially in the era of web-technologies-bloat, more lag than ever - but whether touchscreen or mouse there can't be a buffer, so each lag requires you to stare waiting for the next UI to be drawn.
peterleiser 8 hours ago
xp84 4 hours ago
Somehow I think I failed to think very deeply about this very important link! The twin happenings of the elimination of any retail career that pays a living wage, and the availability of GUIs and especially touch-screen GUIs happened simultaneously over a couple of decades, and the touch-screen dummy interface naturally won out. Not just because training that used to take two days for the 'green-screen' system I learned in 2001 now takes 15 minutes of instruction (and even that training is rather redundant for anyone over 95 IQ) -- also because the massive differential in productivity of an expert vs. new cashier/teller/pharmacy tech/etc. only even manifests if people are on the job long enough to become expert. And they're really not anymore.
Kinda why I prefer self-checkout. Even though the UI is firmly in "dummy" territory and I have to use a touch screen, I've used the current iteration of the self-checkout software more transactions than most cashiers I meet at Target, since they seem to have been there about 2 weeks on average.
AbsurdCensor 8 hours ago
For me, it's typically a balance between speed and efficency of data to help you make decisions quickly, but should be able to be used by anyone with technical experience.
So less of both. Less 'pretty UI' and less "omfg here is every piece of information shoved together and you need to be a wizard to understand it"
ACS_Solver 8 hours ago
BlackRabbit1 6 hours ago
It's so pure.
jll29 6 hours ago
HoldOnAMinute 6 hours ago
Nobody gets a promo from something that is working well for humans.
PunchyHamster 5 hours ago
Most modern apps are very lazy on being actually useful for people that use it frequently
xp84 4 hours ago
bargainbin 3 hours ago
RedShift1 an hour ago
afavour 14 minutes ago
Don’t get me wrong, I get the complaint. But it’s not like the designers are unaware of more information dense alternatives.
hdb2 3 hours ago
msy 2 hours ago
Most interfaces we use on a day to day basis are the opposite, they're designed to be accessible (in the sense that you can use it if you are unfamiliar, not disability) for someone unfamiliar, untrained, and uninterested in learning, which also aligns a lot of the time with sales growth. Nobody is willing to do a 6 week course to use the new HR UI really, really efficiently. The unfortunate thing is some of these are enterprise UIs some of us do have to use all day every day and that's where the impedance mismatch gets painful.
sieve 2 hours ago
I read this and then I think of glass doors with handles on both sides that I don't open till I read the instruction on the affixed plate: PUSH/PULL. The door forces this decision on every single conscientious user. These things are everywhere, including software interfaces.
sota_pop an hour ago
SeriousM 2 hours ago
jll29 6 hours ago
• https://www.thebaron.info/archives/technology/reuter-monitor...
• https://www.thebaron.info/archives/technology/reuters-techni...
mandevil 9 hours ago
apaprocki 9 hours ago
The old terminal hardware communicated over dedicated serial lines and worked in conjunction with many other “server-side” pieces of software that no longer exist, so it would be impossible to make one function as it did back in the day.
rbanffy 8 hours ago
apaprocki 8 hours ago
rbanffy 7 hours ago
bowdenj 6 hours ago
Haven't seen that term in so many years/decades. Thanks for the flashback.
helsinkiandrew 9 hours ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17079033 (104 comments)
dang 8 hours ago
A look back: The Bloomberg Keyboard (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20742329 - Aug 2019 (55 comments)
A look back: The Bloomberg Keyboard (2017) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17079033 - May 2018 (104 comments)
johnhamlin 8 hours ago
pulkas 5 hours ago
this is a great video to watch if you're curious about how the bloomberg terminal ui was made. https://youtu.be/ODgs0eWAIKc
nxobject 40 minutes ago
nomagicbullet 5 hours ago
Wow, what a great history artifact. It is hard to look at this and not wonder where did we go wrong. Everybody _should_ know better, and yet here we are. And now immortalized in the National Museum of American History for all posterity.
graboid 8 hours ago
apaprocki 8 hours ago
Some people like it and projects like this have appeared: https://github.com/dchest/bergoom
graboid 7 hours ago
raldi 3 hours ago
mhh__ 8 hours ago
kristianp 5 hours ago
175 points on Aug 23, 2021 | 138 comments
tbcj 17 minutes ago
bbkane 7 hours ago
michaelastreiko 8 hours ago
nxobject 9 hours ago
bsammon 8 hours ago
However, I suspect you're coming at this from the perspective of a coder or a gamer or some other category who types thousands of keystrokes per day (tens of thousands?). With the assortment of special-function keys that enabled the user to execute common tasks with only two or three keystrokes, I suspect that even actively-used Bloomberg terminals may see an order of magnitude less keystrokes.
(On the third hand... I seem to remember reading that the Bloomberg system included chatroom functionality, which may increase keystroke count)
jll29 6 hours ago
Cider9986 7 hours ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/8aiz67/how_...
anonu 5 hours ago
UltraSane 8 hours ago
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alightsoul 7 hours ago
jll29 6 hours ago
jll29 6 hours ago
E.g. $32k cost of business to make $2bn revenue statistically approximates zero.
anonu 5 hours ago
frakkingcylons 5 hours ago
sandworm101 2 hours ago
Flex247A 9 hours ago
apaprocki 9 hours ago
nxobject 9 hours ago
I'd love to know how they make frontends as responsive as possible. To the engineering blog!
apaprocki 9 hours ago
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ascorbic 7 hours ago
apaprocki 5 hours ago
Agenda: https://github.com/tc39/agendas/blob/main/2026/09.md
alightsoul 9 hours ago
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Zaraif13 6 hours ago
I guess the first principles of what makes great Founders and great businesses from back in the gilded age to today have stayed the same.
nkzd 4 hours ago
gitghxst 9 hours ago