Too AI; Didn't Read (tai-dr.com)
bmacho 11 minutes ago
tptacek an hour ago
If you couldn't bother to read it, why should I?
doesn't follow. You don't know that they didn't read it! Only that they didn't write it. If the point of things like this is to be careful, then be careful.
DragonStrength 40 minutes ago
hansvm 33 minutes ago
conception 27 minutes ago
Analemma_ 36 minutes ago
rao-v 34 minutes ago
Did you even read it through carefully once? If you couldn't bother to craft it, why should I read?
kylecazar 22 minutes ago
If I'm reading reference material/documentation or an update, I care a bit less so long as it isn't tedious.
slongfield 30 minutes ago
The old social contract was that the writer had done more work than they were asking of the reader, but this is torn to shreds with LLM-generated text.
oejgirjdiejfiej 5 minutes ago
No one reads a piece of text BECAUSE the writer had more work writing it than the writer will have reading it (this could end up not being true regardless of AI either way).
The “old social contract” is that readers trust the writers had something to say, and said it. The inner workings have always been irrelevant.
Trouble with genText is that it’s easy for your point to get lost in the narrative exactly because you didn’t write it—it’s like when you know something but can’t put it into words. Your own voice can get lost and so does the appeal to the readers. Nothing to do with effort, entirely to do with the content itself.
I don’t want to read your genAI text because I don’t trust that you managed to get your point across in prose.
dozerly 29 minutes ago
ofjcihen 28 minutes ago
Also the distinction between whether they read/wrote it is nil. Either is disrespectful.
forrestthewoods 26 minutes ago
> You don't know that they didn't read it!
If someone sends me AI slop to read then I am going to assume and behave as if they didn’t read it until proven otherwise.
It is the responsibility of the sender to proactively say “I read this and stand by it as at least mostly correct and reasonable”.
They are also free to say “AI slop have not yet proof read”. Then I have an informed choice.
OzzyB 16 minutes ago
here's my comment ran thru ChatGPT, I hope you dont read it!
""" I don’t really understand the bandwagoning around this either. I’m a terrible writer, so I generally don’t write much. But if I could give an AI my thoughts and have it turn them into something clear, readable, and actually worth reading, why would that suddenly make the ideas themselves less valuable?
You’d be dismissing my thoughts—not because they’re bad, but because AI helped me express them. That just seems like reflexive “AI bad” nonsense.
And that’s before you even get to people who speak English as a second language. Are we really saying their ideas somehow count for less if they use AI to communicate them more clearly? That makes no sense to me. """
furyofantares 15 minutes ago
They might be wrong and it's not fine, and I have a few people I know who have a much higher tolerance than I do for LLM outputs, and I'm aware of that when they send them to me and I often reject it.
But it's a totally different category than someone who only skimmed what they sent me.
If someone sends me something they read and digested and think it's good, but I don't think it is, then I'm not upset with them. If someone sends me something without that first step, then I am.
(Of course they could tell me they didn't read it, and that's fine too, I can choose to read it or not.)
chiatruntime 42 minutes ago
chinathrow 27 minutes ago
xmprt 23 minutes ago
> Not anti-AI. Pro-giving-a-damn.
AI isn't the problem. The problem is that people are sending text without proof reading.
ortusdux 33 minutes ago
throwaway0q5347 an hour ago
I think maybe just AI;DR...?
jmarcher 41 minutes ago
madcaptenor 39 minutes ago
debugnik 7 minutes ago
neilv 33 minutes ago
matheusmoreira 32 minutes ago
satvikpendem 30 minutes ago
user43928 26 minutes ago
Yes, it's the best model right now if you want cheaper than Astra, but they increased the verbosity again!
It just keeps dumping whole novels on me. Its writing might be an improvement over the ludicrous Opus 5 speak, but much of the grating way of speaking is still there.
It's been three days since Tuesday and I'm already tired of Opus 5.5.
beebmam 34 minutes ago
doginasuit 36 minutes ago
Avicebron 34 minutes ago
blitzar 33 minutes ago
bmoathn 29 minutes ago
gcoakes 27 minutes ago
The same goes for AI generated code. I've seen some code that I'm pretty sure would have been better quality if my 90 year old grandma was steering Claude. The standard that I want to hold myself is derived from the open source world like SQLite. Sadly, some people just want to take the minimal path to ticket completion without regard for future maintenance or pride in their work. At least AI is token predicting off the code bases that I admire.
queenkjuul 25 minutes ago
guessmyname 23 minutes ago
As in “Too Much AI; Didn’t Read”.
gruntled-worker 33 minutes ago
montroser 34 minutes ago
The irony...
bit-rot 32 minutes ago
anonymouscaller 37 minutes ago
phyalow 41 minutes ago
Havoc 43 minutes ago
pelagicAustral 26 minutes ago
rollinDyno an hour ago
Afterall, AI slop doesn't necessarily mean the prompter didn't read. It just means they're OK with the AI phrasing. It's also possible that they read the output and had the AI update with whatever edits they prompted.
Writing this comment makes me more convinced that if us users of AI want our written work to be taken seriously, then we should also share our prompts. I hope we quickly converge into a standard way of sharing the prompts that generated a given product.
criemen 44 minutes ago
Surely that's something that can be trained for.
bmoathn 38 minutes ago
Might be a long road, but at least we'll have no shortage of good instagram memes in the meantime
senderista 38 minutes ago
bmoathn 40 minutes ago
For written work, i think we're so new that over a couple years two things will happen 1 - people get kinda used to it (frog in pot?) 2 - the AI will keep getting better and reducing these cringey sounding tells
What will be tough is finding that line of "does this paragraph add value to X" but that applies whether a person wrote it or an AI.
nullc 40 minutes ago
Probably not a typical response-- but perhaps it's useful to keep in mind that every day there are many people being victimized by attackers using AI (and shitty corporations.. wait I repeat myself). So in addition to the ordinary signals of indifference, ignorance, and carelessness that hitting someone with obvious LLM slop implies you'll also be accidentally taking on the voice of some people's abusers, and pick up the spillover effects of their impressions.
This can happen randomly, of course, -- picking up a chose phrase that someone else used-- but slop isn't just a random match. Right now an AI written piece (especially from claude) will identify itself over and over and over again in a way that wouldn't happen with another writer that happened to share some cultural background.
jazzkingrt 33 minutes ago
queenkjuul 21 minutes ago
RomanKornev 35 minutes ago
It should be line https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
bmoathn 33 minutes ago
fb03 43 minutes ago
Reminds me of my own manifesto, which I've written since getting sick of dealing with the hype and gatekeeping machine that surrounds AI based development right now.
dofm 26 minutes ago
Do they really not understand that their website uses the most definitive form of design slop?
4lx87 35 minutes ago
seki285 26 minutes ago
cckolon an hour ago
kkotak 41 minutes ago
hajile 39 minutes ago