AI is not a normal technology (12gramsofcarbon.com)

13 pointsby theahura2 hours ago22 comments

demibabs 14 minutes ago

What happens if there are no more humans in the loop, and instead of building on human work, models have to build on their own work? Would we get stuck in a local maxima?

When AI labs talk about “long-horizon tasks”, they mean tasks on the order of a few days. But what about keeping coherence across decades, like humans can? Models are not trained or tested on the ability to do that, and it seems unlikely that capability would naturally exist.

needfish an hour ago

I wish AI could do my chores. Laundry, folding clothes, dishes, cleaning... That would be nice.

Founderarcstone an hour ago

one day soon, right?

georgemcbay an hour ago

> I wish AI could do my chores. Laundry, folding clothes, dishes, cleaning... That would be nice.

Sorry, AI only does the fun stuff.

Off to the silica sand mines with you and the rest of the meat bags to keep the AI well fed.

Rover222 41 minutes ago

this will of course happen in a few years...

dd8601fn 31 minutes ago

Won’t matter. Most of us won’t have paychecks to buy it with.

Kidding (…kinda).

arcanemachiner 37 minutes ago

If it does that, you should hope it can also stand in bread lines for you too.

myko 35 minutes ago

literally the only thing i want out of ai ^^^^

that said, it is fun generating code with them

voidhorse 19 minutes ago

Unfortunately that will never happen because the people who stand to benefit most from AI already have cost-efficient (see grossly underpaid) humans to do this for them.

They need AI to replace the expensive not cost-effective humans.

charcircuit 18 minutes ago

Washing machines, dish washers, power washers, etc exist.

streetcat1 2 hours ago

AI can do anything that it was trained on based on humans. As soon as humans are not involved, AI will have nothing to train on, and hence, the rate of improvement will approch zero, and the AI will collapse.

Rover222 42 minutes ago

what a dumb thing to keep repeating at this point

jazzpush2 34 minutes ago

Just ignoring all the recently solved math problems human, huh?

tacomonstrous 31 minutes ago

If you understood how they were solved, you'd see that you're only bolstering the point you were responding to.

bpodgursky 16 minutes ago

Human knowledge races up to the frontier through formal education and then nudges past the frontier a little bit at a time and AI will train on AI outputs that do the same. But, it will do it 1000x faster than humans because that's just how they work.

charcircuit 14 minutes ago

>1000x faster than humans

Some of the process of expanding the frontier is not parallelizable and is built on top of previous discoveries. And pushing the frontier requires doing things in the real world, or running experiments that take significant real world time that can hurt your 1000x faster claim.

daft_pink 17 minutes ago

I think what you are missing is that it will dramatically lower the cost of living so that everyone’s standard of living increases. It’s not about jobs.

irishloop 15 minutes ago

I don't think there's any particularly good evidence of this other than blind optimism.

dosisking 5 minutes ago

> I think what you are missing is that it will dramatically lower the cost of living so that everyone’s standard of living increases. It’s not about jobs

This is flat out wrong. The problem is excessive taxation and government spending beyond its means that lowers everyone's standard of living.

octoberfranklin 10 minutes ago

New is never normal.

I stopped reading when the author became overwhelmed by their compulsion to blame everything in the universe to the current US president.