Don't let anyone take away your big box of cables (blog.jim-nielsen.com)

519 pointsby Brajeshwar18 hours ago336 comments

booty 17 hours ago

Key for me is to "group" cables. For example, I have a bag of USB-C cables, a bag of USB-A cables, etc.

Grouping them is key to deduplicating.

It's easy to look at a single legacy USB A-to-B "printer" cable in isolation and think "I might need this someday!" Because you really might need it someday. However, if you group them you might see that you have ten of them. And then you can get rid of... maybe 8 of them.

I also (mostly) put individual cables into baggies. You can get clear 2mil generic ziploc style baggies for super cheap on Amazon or elsewhere. $15 for 200 or something. Prvents tangles and way less effort than wrapping or tying them.

bityard 17 hours ago

Yeah, this is pretty much what I was going to write. I group my cables into boxes for USB, power, network, audio/video, and power supplies. The boxes are a finite size, and when no more cables will fit into the box, I go through and do some deduplication.

joshstrange 17 hours ago

This bags or bins or whatever your preferred organization method is. Don't just have "cables" group them. This is how I discovered "yeah, I don't need all these DVI/VGA cables and I can do with only 10 extra HDMI cables".

I'll second "grouping" with "capability sorting". Get a cable tester and sort your cables by Charge/USB speeds. Even with my default "grouping" of things like "USB-C -> C", "USB-A -> C", etc I still was buying new cables for projects/uses since I wanted to make sure I got exactly the speed/power requirements right. Now all my cables are sorted by capability and that led to more purging and less purchasing since I can go to my cable bins and grab exactly what I need.

booty 17 hours ago

God, yeah. I try to label the USB-C cables directly by capability with my label maker, if they are more than basic charging cables.

theturtle 14 hours ago

I use a white paint pen. DATA and NO DATA.

dataflow 12 hours ago

What marker do you use to mark them? Is the ink durable and easy to read?

aaronax 9 hours ago

A label maker, as they said they use, prints durable and easy to read labels.

dataflow 9 hours ago

Whoops, thank, I can't read - I misread label maker as label marker!

mceachen 7 hours ago

I bought a cheap pack of 5 colors of 3m electrical tape. Each cable gets one or two pieces of tape:

Data:

White if usb2

Blue if it supports USB 3 data (because 5Gbps USB 3 ports are mostly blue)

Green if TB/USB4/40Gbps

Power:

None if low/no Power Delivery

Yellow for 45W PD

Red for 65W+ PD

dataflow 5 hours ago

Love this, that sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing!

user_of_the_wek 5 hours ago

You could even do combinations of colors like on resistors.

Evidlo 4 hours ago

Might get sticky residue after a few years

dns_snek 3 hours ago

I suggest finding something else, electrical tape starts coming off after a few years, leaving behind sticky residue that's impossible to remove without some kind of solvent. Same goes for masking tape.

zxexz 2 hours ago

Somewhat recently, on a wild night out on the town, I ended up buying a USB-C <> USB-C cable tester[0]. Using it, I managed to find a few amazing cables amongst my collection. Gave away the others with context. I want something like this for every type of cable.

[0] https://caberqu.com/20-42-c2c-caberqu.html

unwind 2 hours ago

I like your idea of a wild night out!

Note to others: that tester board looks fairly passive, i.e. I don't see (mention of) a microcontroller to talk to the chip that high-powered cables must have. So I guess it's somewhat limited in the number of things it can check?

gunalx 13 minutes ago

More often than not just knowing the contact has OK connection is good enough.

As far as I know the marker chips is mostly to tell the devices to not abuse the cable.

tmountain 9 minutes ago

What makes for an amazing cable? For USB, if it carries data and power, I’m usually pretty happy with it.

ButlerianJihad 17 hours ago

> clear 2mil generic ziploc style baggies

> transparent plastic box

> Banker's Boxes

Do not do this. All plastic baggies, storage tubs, and grocery bags, are going to build up with static electricity. While it may seem totally fine to drop inert cables into a plastic bag, eventually you'll come up against a USB stick, or an SSD or SDRAM, or something, and that ESD damage will not be a pleasant customer experience.

Go here: https://silicagelpackets.com/aluminized-and-clear-moisture-b...

I picked up some resealable, aluminized bags and they've lasted for years. I also purchased fistfuls of silica gel packets, and I toss one into each bag when I seal it up.

I'm not sure if organizing "by cable type" would make sense to me, when there are adapters and dongles involved. Some of these baggies have been labeled by the central device, e.g. "All ThinkPad accessories are in here".

Also, for cable organizing, I've ordered rolls of plain Velcro strips: https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-VEL-30765-AMS-Self-Gripp...

You can just cut these to the desired length and wrap them around your cables, for routing or bundling. They are, of course, reusable. I cut little notches in them so that they stay locked to each cable. You could get them in rainbow colors, but I like the white rolls so that I can write on them with a Sharpie.

booty 17 hours ago

Hmm, interesting. I've never had a static charge issue, but then again, maybe I will someday. I'll definitely look into that next time I mess around with my storage. Thank you.

joquarky 13 hours ago

> I also purchased fistfuls of silica gel packets, and I toss one into each bag when I seal it up.

Keep in mind that not everything stores optimally at very low humidity.

I was surprised to learn (from a recent thread here) that books will degrade more quickly if they are kept completely dry.

ThePowerOfFuet 5 hours ago

That link almost gave me cancer. Here's the clean version for those who come after:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QH2NVM1

miguel-muniz 16 hours ago

Yes grouping is the important part. The next important part is labeling.

For example, I have a variety of USB C to USB C cables but they each have their own capabilities. Some support high transfer speeds, so I keep them around for connecting SSDs, while others are just USB 2 speeds so they are strictly for charging.

Another case is I have a very specific USB C to USB C cable that looks incredibly generic, but it is for connecting a screen tablet to a laptop because the manufacturer decided to make the port recessed, so only their cable fits. If this cable wasn't labeled as for a specific device, I would have donated it years ago.

It is some effort, for those who don't like to tinker with tech I can understand why they just shove them all into a box in the back of their closet. But I find that culling my cables at least makes me aware of what I have and don't have.

One other suggestion I have is just buying a longer cable than you think you need because eventually you'll have the need for it anyway. I have so many 3.5mm aux cables because I kept changing my desk set up and needing to buy longer and longer cables. If I had just bought the longest cable I could have at the time I would have saved myself some headache.

Another tip is adapters. Sometimes it's easier to just have cables of one type and a bunch of adapters for when you need them rather than having a ton of different cables for each possible scenario. I used to have a mix of RCA and 3.5mm cables but never had the right combination of what I needed at the time. Eventually I caved in and just bought a ton of adapters so I could standardize all the cables and use adapters as needed. Same with USB C cables.

dataflow 12 hours ago

> One other suggestion I have is just buying a longer cable than you think you need because eventually you'll have the need for it anyway.

This only works with cables that bend easily. For something stiff/sensitive like high speed USB4 I found it more problematic than helpful.

asah 14 hours ago

+1000 did _exactly_ this right down to the ziploc. Also a bag for audio, HDMI, old apple cables, and "random" cables. These days, I store the ziplocs in a pelican-type case and that goes in a stack with cases for power cords, camera gear, SBC gear,etc - and the stacks all go on furniture dollies, so I can roll them out.

criddell 14 hours ago

What bag does a cable with HDMI on one end and USB C on the other end go into?

asdfman123 13 hours ago

That's still a topic of active debate

fragmede 12 hours ago

No, active HDMI cables go in a different bin.

fuzzfactor 13 hours ago

It's own bag, it won't feel lonely for long :)

hamdingers 13 hours ago

In my system that lands in the "adapters" bin which has has a "display" bag within it.

moron4hire 13 hours ago

Either create a 2-dimensional categorization system or create a priority hierarchy.

toyg 12 hours ago

The most specialized standard wins, so in this case I'd say HDMI.

fitzroy 12 hours ago

Obviously, one cuts a small hole in the ziploc bags and runs the cable between them so that each connector can be in the correct bag.

jasomill 14 hours ago

I do this. All my FireWire 400-to-800, 400-to-400, 400-to-dinky little Sony 400, etc. cables were all in one box, the FireWire 800-to-Thunderbolt adapter was in the box with my Thunderbolt cables and adapters, and I still didn't find the FireWire 800-to-800 cable I needed to use Target Disk Mode on a friend's Mac a few months ago until a few weeks later when I was cleaning out my storage unit and found an unused FW800 cable in a box I guess I was saving on the off chance that I needed to return a 15-year-old LaCie RAID enclosure that was shucked about a decade ago off for warranty repairs.

stirfish 13 hours ago

>However, if you group them you might see that you have ten of them.

My first thought was "awesome, what project can I start that uses ten of those cables?"

Cpoll 13 hours ago

Did you come up with anything? Because I'm drawing a blank.

fragmede 13 hours ago

10 printers, one for each finger, outputting a page per letter used by analyzing your bash_history.

asdfman123 13 hours ago

I'm going to steal your idea. What ziploc baggie size have you found is best for cables?

corranh 13 hours ago

Quart ziploc for most. A couple gallon sizes for longer or thicker cables.

fuzzfactor 13 hours ago

And then there's the bags from Bed Bath & Beyond where they were made to hold giant pillows and blankets all together . . .

jefftk 13 hours ago

I grouped mine a few months ago. Since then, several times, I've been able to find a cable and use it right away. Before that the prospect of digging through the massive tangle often led me to (lazy!) order new cables.

programmarchy 13 hours ago

Welcome to the OCD lounge. I also put my cables into bags, which helps me sleep better at night.

sixothree 13 hours ago

Stackable bins work too. Need various sizes as backup as you accumulate though.

VCFundedGenYer 13 hours ago

USB B cables are also notoriously sensitive and the slightest damage can result in malfunctions. Went through this recently with a PreSonus AudioBox.

palmotea 13 hours ago

> USB B cables are also notoriously sensitive and the slightest damage can result in malfunctions. Went through this recently with a PreSonus AudioBox.

Do you mean micro-USB-B? Full size (and mini) USB-B cables (comparatively) built like tanks.

Even though it's annoying, I understand the design tradeoff. You definitely would rather your (replaceable) cable get damaged than the port it's plugged into.

dofm 12 hours ago

I have this issue with cables between my Pi 4B and my slightly old 3D printer.

USB-A to micro-B cables, and the connection is tetchy beyond belief about which ones it will accept and which it won't, either with or without the theoretically-unnecessary-for-this-printer power wire blocker. I can see no rhyme or reason to it but now I have a cable that has a dot painted on it...

darkwater 13 hours ago

I'll pay the price to sound like your average redditor but... thanks, Internet stranger, for this advice. I will follow it from now on - especially for the "prevent tangles" part.

jaggederest 12 hours ago

Proper flaking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbxMyytWw60

Ziptie once coiled, attach label for what format / length.

Bag cables with the same connectors. If you have more than fit in a gallon ziploc you should probably reduce them.

Bonus if you hang them on a pegboard so you can see them with big clear labels on each bag.

Edit: and shrinkwrapped labels on each end (e.g. 12345-USBC-2m) for double bonus points so that you never have to trace a cable to find the other end.

MisterTea 12 hours ago

> Ziptie once coiled, attach label for what format / length.

Please god, no more zip ties. Use double sided Velcro strap. You can buy it in a roll and cut to length. Reuse it all you want. Join multiple shorter lengths to make a longer one. Just please don't make me cut another god damn zip tie off a bundled cord. I deal with enough zip tie bondage fetishists at work.

jaggederest 10 hours ago

Cutting the ziptie is half the fun! Just be glad it's not shrink wrapped or clamshelled ;)

aidenn0 10 hours ago

double-sided velcro holds less well and is more likely to stick to things. Just toss a pair of diags in your box if you are worried about getting the zip ties off.

niccl 10 hours ago

There is a problem with the over-under method use for long cables. If you then grab the wrong end through the centre hole you end up with a cable with a bunch of overhand knots in, which I find much more tedious to deal with than just using normal looping of cables and making sure to add the twist each time.

Back many years when I was touring with bands, at the end of the night you'd see all the lighting crew walking around the stage coiling the long cables, with one end trailing after them, to make sure the twists were correct. That was much more useful than generic over-under for all cables.

over-under has its place, but I don't use it everywhere.

dataflow 12 hours ago

That sounds hard. Is a USB-A-to-C cable in the A group or C group or neither? What about the inverse? What about cables that only do data but can't transmit enough power? What about cables that are slow but high power? What about thick cables like USB4 that barely bend or fit in the bag? What about male-to-female vs. male-to-male? What about brand-specific cables that have their own abilities (say, high-powered but not PD)? The list goes on and on...

I think I hardly have any pairs of cables that are similar enough to be interchangeable, and at this point most of them are USB-C, so they'd all mostly end up in the same bag if that's the criterion.

yerald 12 hours ago

Have an A bin, and a C bin, and stretch the A-to-C cords between them. Simple!

juliie 12 hours ago

My solution is a big drawer block with lots of spots for different cables. USB c cables with video go in the video cable drawer, high power goes in the power drawer, etc. Can't mistake USB c with HDMI (and mini HDMI can burn in hell). And only buy USB C cables that state their capabilities on the housing, if they don't I'll permanently attach them to a place where they can be most useful.

booty 12 hours ago

It's not for everybody (what ever is, rite?) and since you "hardly have any pairs of cables that are similar enough to be interchangeable" then congrats, you're winning at life and don't need anything like this.

    The sounds hard
Doesn't feel hard to me. I have a bag for USB A, a bag for USB C, and a bag for USB A<->C.

My USB-C charging cables are all 3' or longer, so they're visually distinct from the crappy little cables that come for free inside the package for various budget-priced gizmos.

My Thunderbolt/USB4 cables are labeled as such, and I am very confused that you are talking about Thunderbolt/USB4 cables so stiff that they cannot bend to fit into a container or bag.... I mean, mine are stiff but not that stiff. Plus these are expensive cables. Not sure I have any spares. Those are bought for purpose.

dataflow 11 hours ago

Definitely not winning at life with this lol, it's actually frustrating because the cables are so similar. One has a higher speed, one has a higher power, one is shorter, one is longer, one is more flexible, one has a display showing when it's connected, etc... and in many cases it's hard to tell which at a glance so it's always a pain trying to figure out if I'm using a cable unnecessarily somewhere and unnecessarily buying another one because of that.

Charging is an interesting case, I actually deliberately use crappy cables for that too, depending on the charging time I need!

Re: stiffness: I mean I guess it depends, how big is your bag. I'm thinking like a freezer bag not a grocery bag. I could bend them to fit but then I'd probably mess them up.

Dylan16807 9 hours ago

When I look up thick thunderbolt 4 cables I see a bend radius of 2 inches at most. And my very thick 15 foot 4K displayport/HDMI cables came packed in a box with a 3 inch bend radius. You can manage a 3 inch bend radius with a quart bag, let alone the 1 gallon or 2 gallon bags that I'd expect to act as reasonable cable storage.

JMiao 11 hours ago

I would consider tossing the usb-a to usb-c cables that do not have a confirmed 56k ohm resistor.

ThatPlayer 9 hours ago

Similarly USB cables that do not carry data lines

aranaur 9 hours ago

Though these should be cut in half before discarding so that no one "helpfully" retrieves them.

dataflow 8 hours ago

I think I disagree. I just (re-)discovered a couple of my cables don't have data lines a few hours ago, prompted by the earlier discussion. My initial instinct was also to throw them away like you said. But then I realized they're actually quite useful for any case where you want to prevent data transmission, whether due to security or other reasons.

JMiao 7 hours ago

agree. i have no issue with charging only cables, they’re often lighter and more flexible, but i do require the 56k ohm resistor to wrangle misbehaving devices that could start a fire.

wredcoll 3 hours ago

How do you test that?

pampas 8 hours ago

Easy. One end in each box.

vel0city 12 hours ago

Yeah, "grouping" is largely the way to go for the generic parts, and keeping parts together when they really do need to go together is another.

I used to just have a generic big tub with all the generic cables and wires. Some were nicely wrapped up, others often got themselves into a giant tangled mess. I could never find anything. I got a bunch of small/medium sized plastic bins with lids for all the generic stuff. An old labeler quickly made them "USB cables", "A/V Cables", "DC Power Adapters", "AC Power Cables", "Coax Cables"...now it takes me two seconds to find any particular random cable.

OroPla 12 hours ago

Remember CD spindles? Those are were a quarter of my cables live now. They can be stacked! There's also a few boxes and one tech bag. Also, the 15m (50ft) HDMI cable doesn't fit anywhere so it got it's own space.

JMiao 11 hours ago

Thank you for mentioning cd spindles. Good times.

demritocracy 11 hours ago

A secret I've found is use hair ties instead of rubber bands with cables, they survive long stints in the garage much better

bsoles 11 hours ago

I routinely steal my wife's hairbands to tie various cables in my cable stash. You can never have enough USB cables of various types. But as Murphy dictates, the USB cable that I need now is one that I don't have in my stash.

raphar 11 hours ago

you'll die violently if she find out you are behind the dissapearance of her hairbands. (At least that would happen to me)

demritocracy 8 hours ago

I started with the wife's stash, then bough a few thousand in bulk so i would never have to worry about it again

ChoGGi 11 hours ago

Garden stores/sections sell circles of green Velcro you can cut; I figure of it's good enough for UV then it'll work in a box.

As a bonus, you don't need to raid her hairbands.

mauvehaus 10 hours ago

Bike shops have yards of that stuff in the late winter/early spring. At least Trek shops do, dunno about others. Trek uses it to tie stuff onto the frame in the box to keep it all from rattling around.

homeonthemtn 10 hours ago

Ooooooo...... I hadn't thought of this. Thank you!

tom_alexander 11 hours ago

I use twine for the same reason. Dirt cheap. Lasts forever. Doesn't leave residue on your cables. The downside is I end up cutting the twine when I need to use the cable but a couple inches of twine in insignificant.

krupan 10 hours ago

Bread ties are good too. Sometimes they're too short, but you can twist a few together

dredmorbius 8 hours ago

There are similar long coated-wire ties used for gardening.

Zip-ties, velcro, and twine (all suggested previously) also work well.

somehnguy 10 hours ago

I use cable velcro ties. A big roll of them is cheap.

nikau 9 hours ago

Used bicycle tube cut into rings make the best elastic bands, they don't degrade

ssl-3 9 hours ago

I double the cables over until they're short enough, and then tie them into a loose half knot.

No fasteners to wish for, or to fail.

Both ends of every cable are always next to each other for identification at a glance.

Different cables cannot tangle with each other in a box.

There are no axial twists imparted into the cable.

(Stage hands hate this technique, but this isn't stagecraft.)

demritocracy 8 hours ago

another benefit of the hair tie method is when you go to use the cable, you can take as much length as you need from either end, then bunch/coil 'n wrap the rest with the hair tie. You have given me a lot to think about though, I'm always looking for ways to improve my cable storage techniques

ssl-3 2 hours ago

It works best with short-ish cables; several meters or less is nice and quick and is simple to keep neat.

Longer cables can also work but it kind of takes more space to get it done. Like, a 30-meter extension cord or similar is completely do-able, but it's useful to be able to walk around while it is happening. If the cable is both very long and very heavy, then it's a great workout for all kinds of muscle groups that may have been forgotten about. :)

But again, it's quick for the lengths we usually use in PC and home AV spaces. Or at least becomes quick with enough repetition: My hands seem to know how to do it on their own without me really looking or even thinking about it, and that frees my other resources up enough that I can visually plan my next (unrelated) move while the first is still in motion.

Multiple cables of about the same length can be wrapped together like this. A stereo pair of RCA interconnects, or the same 3 cables that always get used with a laptop, can stay grouped together and never become separated in storage.

It also works on laptop cables with a power brick in the middle.

And it's nice to the cables. Inherently avoiding axial twists is key here and the process also tends to help remove minor twists that showed up while the cable was in-use. It does produce periodic bends, and those bends always happen at the same places, and that repeated deformation does promote stress fractures at very predictable places.

But cables generally survive thousands of iterations of this over the span of decades, and decades is good enough. :)

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Stage hands, meanwhile: There's reasons they hate the double-double technique, above. Their cables can be very long, there can be literal tons of them, and speed is a very important factor.

So they use a very specific coiling technique called over-under that seems impossible to describe with written language alone. It does put axial twist into the cable but those twists alternate and average to 0 instead of accumulating or multiplying (like elbow-wrapping can do[1]).

Over-under always requires the coil and cable ends to be tied up together before storage. That's often accomplished with an appropriate length of stout string or even rope that is permanently tied to one end (nothing to lose), but velcro can work too.

It's a solid technique. When done right, it allows fast deployment: Untie it, hang onto one end, and the rest can be literally thrown across a stage or whatever. Since the twist averages to 0, it tends to unwind neatly as it flies and lay flat when it lands.

And, of course: It stows well. Cables wrapped over-under can be tossed into a bag or a trunk or hung on hooks or whatever; they don't tangle.

It's probably overkill for the big box of mostly-short cables at home, but it's also worth understanding for the longer stuff we also use.

[1]: Elbow-wrapping and other very common methods that aren't unwrapped exactly oppositely of how they were wrapped up to begin with, or provide some other mechanism to manage twist: Those are great ways to put permanent axial twists into a cable. It is the entire reason why the long extension cords hanging in so many home garages and work environments alike (and especially on commercial vacuum cleaners[2]) wind up looking like coil springs or curly pasta even after being stretched out flat-ish in an open space. They didn't start off that way; they were forced to be that way through handling. Friends don't let friends elbow-wrap cables.

[2]: And that's also why residential vacuum cleaners usually have a large number of ridges running down the length of their power cords.

The usual storage method has the user winding the cable around hooks on the side of the machine, and the usual deployment method involves rotating one of those hooks and liberating the entire coil of cable at once. This tends to promote axial twist.

But! The ridges enhance rotational friction. So as the ridged cable slides through the user's hand as they wind it back up onto the side of the machine after use, the ridges help those twists to be pushed down the line to the far end where the plug is. And since that end is loose at that time, it's free to rotate and alleviate twist. This happens automatically as the user winds up the cable and is a pretty good design trick. :) (I have no idea why commercial machines use smooth cable.)

nottorp 3 hours ago

I bought a small garden twist tie roll years ago. I don't have a garden but I have boxes of cables. Probably won't run out for another 10 years.

anotherevan 11 hours ago

Ha! I use CD spindles for… wait for it… CDs! Just opened the second drawer of my desk and counted four spindles of blank CDs and DVDs that I haven't used in years.

(I also hoard blank CD/DVD jewel cases. Who says technology ruins lives?)

lakkal 9 hours ago

I like to use the round Danish butter cookie tins for cable storage.

pezezin 2 hours ago

Glad to see I am not the only one keeping our grandma's traditions alive.

mcapodici 11 hours ago

Unless you are very short on space, keep all 10. Because 50-100% of them will randomly cease to work.

PunchyHamster 10 hours ago

I dunno, I get few thematical boxes of them (audio cables, power cables, usb stuff) and it never happened

jimniels 11 hours ago

Post author here.

I didn’t get into my organizational techniques, but agree with your take! Ziploc bags + a sharpie is exactly how I do it.

https://imgur.com/JMUIcDY

tapland 7 hours ago

Yes, and I do the same for all DC adapters. Writing voltage etc so it's easy to find

Lucasoato 11 hours ago

Same, my categories are power, data, audio, video (for mysterious reasons networking cables are renting a small space into the video’s box).

anotherevan 11 hours ago

Yep, ziploc bags with the type of cable written in permanent marker.

Pro-tip, use a hole punch on a corner of the bag. That way, once zipped you can just squeeze it to get the air out.

kjax 10 hours ago

I did the same thing, albeit with some printed labels in the same corner on each, so that it's easy to flip through them when they're stacked together. Has saved me dozens of minutes over the years!

cyclopeanutopia 10 hours ago

And then, when you really need them, it turns out that out of ten maybe one still works and you couldn't predict which one it will be. :)

rconti 9 hours ago

Yep. I went through my big box of cables, deduped a lot of things, got rid of a bunch of stuff I'd never need, etc.

Of course, I DID need one of them just a month or two later! But it was still a good exercise.

Now I have a whole drawer in a workbench devoted to cables sorted by type. What's surprising is how I NEVER have spare USB-C cables and ALWAYS have spare lightning cables. I mean, it SHOULDN'T be surprising, since more and more devices I own are now USB-C, but it's interesting that I expect my stock to always provide, and it never does -- for that cable type.

The frequency with which I have to buy new USB-C cables of varying lengths really illustrates the migration I've undergone. "Surely I have one I can just snag for the other car..." and I'm always proven wrong.

fmajid 9 hours ago

Also, if you have a heat-sealer, individually bagging the cables before grouping them avoids having cables mate and turn into a Gordian knot. A heat-sealer allows you to make bags that are just the right size for your cable, vs. generic ziplocs.

seany 8 hours ago

This is rough when you have lots of weird one offs. Strange trrs->rj45 for programming a radio you still use but haven't reprogrammed in 10 years; does that go in "generic serial stuff" or "things you want to keep but haven't used in a long time" (right next to the 13w3 -> 5 wire component cable for the sparc in the other corner)

tehlike 8 hours ago

I put them into individual bags, usually group of two of the same kind e.g. USB a to c.

FpUser 8 hours ago

>"Key for me is to "group" cables. For example, I have a bag of USB-C cables, a bag of USB-A cables, etc."

Yeah. I do the same

stronglikedan 6 hours ago

I group my cables too, but it's all one group in a big plastic bin that gets bigger over time.

ghaff 6 hours ago

Yep. It's easy to get into the mode of tossing everything into a big box and then you can't find anything anyway. After a tire, I tossed a lot but I find I still need to organize a lot of things down to a manageable remainder where I can actually find things I'm likely use.

wildzzz 5 hours ago

I just sorted through like 15 years of accumulated cables. I kept any that I knew I'd need for projects or things I knew I had a use for. Everything else got slimmed down to a maximum of two of each type and general length and only if they were good quality. Type C and Cat6 were the only cables I kept several of. I threw out so many USB micro and Cat5 cables.

gr4viton2 3 hours ago

I do group them using one "type" per box too (either "audio cables" or "usb not-C", "usb C" etc. However I do not use zip-bags, instead I use core of toilet rolls - suitable to add length labeling too.

dminuoso 3 hours ago

On a side note: grouping cables based on the connector form factor is evil when you include USB-C.

Which of the cables are for PD? How much power? Can they do USB? If yes, at which of the dozen speeds? Is it a Thunderbolt cable? Which TB version? Is it certifiable or just blatantly unstable when running 40Gbit/s? Or is it some proprietary alt mode cable? And which ones are just spec breaking fire hazards if you tried PD with 240W through them? Do the cables have markings to tell you the capabilities? Are they even correct? Were they put on as a lie to upsell cheap USB 2.1 cables?

Bonus points if there are cables with some sort of “adapter” dangling in front (quotes because these are not a thing in USB). Double all your points if there is an USB-C to USB-C extension cord in the box.

It is certainly a box of mysteries.

I do not mean to invalidate your organizational scheme, but every time I am reminded of USB I have an irrational desire to rant about the flaws of USB-C.

bambax 3 hours ago

Like everyone, it seems, in this thread, I have not one big box of cables but several. But my classification system is mostly around age: old USB cables (mini, micro) vs recent USB cables (USB C), old screen cables (VGA) vs recent ones (HDMI), etc.

This doesn't work for everything: audio cables do not evolve much, nor do remote cables for DSLRs; but in general it's reasonably effective.

immmmmm 2 hours ago

As a musician with a modular synth, I have three boxes, two just for audio.

Somehow, after decades of careful curation, the cable I need is always missing!

SmasherEpilepti 13 hours ago

Recently, I was screwed by my big box of cables, when I pulled out a SATA power connector for my modular power supply, and learned very quickly that though the ports universally fit across modular PSUs, the pinouts are not actually intercompatible, and you can and will fry your hard drives.

I didn't know this; I had foolishly assumed that SATA power connectors were standardized on both ends.

godelski 13 hours ago

They aren't even consistent within manufacturer!

They're standardized on the device side, but not the PSU side. So always check pinout before you make the very reasonable assumption that if it fits it works

ChoGGi 11 hours ago

> They aren't even consistent within manufacturer!

Especially if the "manufacturer" is just a reseller.

smrq 12 hours ago

Modular PSU cables never go in the big box. They go back in the PSU box if I'm being smart. Then I know which PSU they came from and can throw them out in ten years along with the PSU itself.

(I'm rarely smart and have a second big box of modular PSU cables that I maybe ought to get rid of.)

locust101 12 hours ago

I had the same thing happen to me when I plugged in my massager charger into the blood pressure monitor and fried it

fabian2k 12 hours ago

That's an expensive mistake to make, though frying your HDDs is usually a lot cheaper than frying your GPU.

It's seriously annoying that this is the case though. Unless you kept the cables in the original package or in a labelled container, you cannot safely use them again if you owned more than one modular PSU.

SmasherEpilepti 11 hours ago

It wasn't actually very expensive in money, because I was still able to RMA the pair of fried drives, but it did cost me $30 in shipping, a month of waiting, a lost delivery via UPS, and tons of time dealing with customer support for both UPS and Seagate to actually get a second set of replacement drives.

On the bright side, the actual replacements that eventually got to me were both 2TB bigger than the originals. They didn't tell me about this, so I'm not sure if they silently upgraded me to apologize for the wait, it was an accident, or they happened to be out of stock and just grabbed the next size up.

goobatrooba 3 hours ago

You destroyed the drives by using an incompatible cable (I.e. clear user error) and they still sent you (upgraded) replacements? That is unusual.

exe34 12 hours ago

Oh for crying out loud, I've spent my life believing if it fits it's right. %$@&#!

rubidium 12 hours ago

I hope you never have to work with serial D9 cables. The variation of pinouts for legacy equipment is massive! Pretty sure every theoretical variation became some standard.

exe34 4 hours ago

Hah there was one on the 8088 I was allowed to play with as a child, but I only used the parallel port to switch on/off a motor via a relay.

SmasherEpilepti 11 hours ago

Better to learn from my experience than yours.

matheusmoreira 33 minutes ago

Right? And people say assembling a PC is just like LEGO!

CTDOCodebases 12 hours ago

Before you fry a whole 12bay drive array and backplane let me tell you this:

6 pin EPS and 6 pin PCIe power cables are not the same. Even though the connector may fit they are not the same pinout.

samudrijan 12 hours ago

Looks the same? Should be fine.

djmips 2 hours ago

uh oh

harshreality 11 hours ago

A PSU cable tester is valuable for this. They're much cheaper than a replacement PSU, and you can plug in cables wherever they fit on a PSU, and test whether the output is correct for the CPU/PCI/motherboard/SATA connector you want to plug it into. The PSU and cable might be a black box, but the output is always testable.

aidenn0 10 hours ago

Couldn't you still fry a PSU if the cable assumed multiple common pins to the PSU, but the PSU had different voltages across those connectors?

Dylan16807 5 hours ago

At least for the layouts listed here: https://pc-mods.com/blogs/psu-pinout-repository

The motherboard cables do all kinds of different scary crossovers so never separate them, though you'll probably never have an "extra" motherboard cable in the first place.

None of the other cables bridge pins on the PSU side, they "just" scramble the pins they're attached to at the other end.

koyote 11 hours ago

I too have been burned by the BBOC, although not as badly as this:

I picked out a random short ethernet cable that looked nice (it was flat) to connect my wifi AP to my router.

It took me about a month to realize my 100mbit internet connection had dropped down to about ~85-90mbit, but more importantly, transferring files between a wifi client and the wired network was also only ~90mbit.

Turned out the cable was so bad that it only connected at 100mbit...

I have now gone the other way and I actually curate the BBOC: All cables I get for 'free' with random appliances now go straight to the bin (unless they are specialised) and I only keep cables I specifically bought and know they adhere to a standard.

EvanAnderson 18 hours ago

I wish the old cables, gear, etc. I have squirreled-away stopped saving Customers' and friends' asses because I could feel good about getting rid of it.

We've been unspooling the stash of wood off-cuts, bits of copper pipe, and misc. broken or trash-picked parts from my late grandfather's workshop for the last few years. He always seemed to have materials at-hand to fix anything and, as a kid, I was in awe of that. Now I understand why.

I hope I can leave less stuff for my daughter to poke thru, but at the same time I want to be like my grandfather, seemingly being able to fix anything immediately.

stmw 16 hours ago

It's what JIT (just-in-time) inventory and offshore manufacturing took away from us. Hold onto your spare parts.

wil421 14 hours ago

My dad worked at Lockheed and in the 80s they joked they used JIC (just in case) manufacturing. They had so many parts without a clear reason as to why they created so many.

stmw 8 hours ago

JIC! That's funny. It may sound like inefficiency, but really it is an option on future flexibility. Just like the big box of cables.

michaelt 12 hours ago

> I wish the old cables, gear, etc. I have squirreled-away stopped saving Customers' and friends' asses because I could feel good about getting rid of it.

What you've got to do is become more forgetful.

Ask not what a 17v power supply can do for your friends. Ask if you'll remember it and find it when that moment comes.

meindnoch 7 minutes ago

Forwarding this to my wife.

1-more 14 hours ago

In 2021 I cut the end off a USB cable to expose the power leads which I scotch taped to the power meter on my bike to charge it. I kept that cable. In 2024 I used it to add USB disconnects to the light strip I attached to the bottom of my son's crib, allowing me to keep the light strip intact when we lowered the base from the baby height to the toddler height. A week later we got rid of the strip because we really didn't need the light like that any more. Still, no regrets. This was my version of using every part of the buffalo.

jimniels 11 hours ago

waiting for the next piece of this story, where your toddler turns 13 and gets their first mp3 player, which doesn't ship with a charger and guess who still has 18 inches of cable left?

goobatrooba 3 hours ago

While I like to improvise I'd never want to use a cut-off cable anywhere near a toddler. Whatever the savings or practical benefits, they just can't outweigh the risk of the toddler doing something that causes a shock, fire, ... Maybe for the best that you removed that light strip.

Stitch4223 an hour ago

My cable box Protips:

1: use transparent boxes like an 11l IKEA Samla so you can easily see what you have.

2: fold each cable in half or a few times more and apply the granny knot[1], this will prevent your cables becoming an entangles mess. There are superior(tm) ways to fold cables, but doing the granny knot for household cables seems the way to go. Doing festivals with retro gaming computers I’ve done this thousands of times and it’s fast, saves space, gives quick and reliable access and prevents damage by pulling on cables from clutter etc

3: use multiple boxes for different categories: audio, game computers, standard power cables, pc cables (sata, usb), power bricks and so on to have some sort of a system, any system will work

4: don’t keep an inventory list: let the anarchy that is you, your memory and family, add and take away cables ad hoc. You will forget what is in the box and that is fine.

5: don’t forget the box exists and look in the box :)

[1]: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-g7cauAe7Ec

RajT88 6 hours ago

I feel seen.

When my wife and I moved into a new house, my big box of cables got sorted into several smaller boxes of cables, and an "other" bin.

I also have a travel bag of meticulously packed USB cables of all kinds.

3 times in the last month, I produced exactly the right cable for helping her set up some older hardware at her office at her small business.

The kinds of cables lesser men would have thrown away long ago.

flurdy an hour ago

I have also accepted I need duplicates of stuff for convenience.

I have one box that has all that I need when we go away for the weekend/week (by car, not plane). All the chargers since the family now has a lot of phones, headsets, kindles, cameras etc. 2 HDMI cables, audio splitters, speakers, extension leads etc that I nearly always need when away for a while.

And then my commute bag has a small essentials bag for the now rarer times I work elsewhere.

All with duplicates of what I already have at home. That I before instead used to unpack and reuse at home, then find and repack all the time, and forget some. Not a problem anymore. My tech packing is literally picking up a box and put it in the boot of the car. Done.

kingrolo 10 hours ago

I decided years ago to limit myself to just one box of cables... So then I ended up having to keep finding a bigger and bigger box to switch them to.

One thing that bothers me though (or an excuse my brain uses to justify it maybe) is that it feels so wasteful to dump so many cables that will probably end up in landfill when I know there's someone out there who could make use of them.

If anyone has a suggestion on that or can tell me about the pop up local cable donation swap initiative I haven't heard of them that would be welcome.

colechristensen 9 hours ago

things like old hdmi cables need to go, updated specs mean the old ones fundamentally don't work.

learn how and get the tools to strip wires and sell the metal for scrap when you have too much, do it right and better than recycling, you can sell it

throwaway219450 9 hours ago

Some thrift stores will take them, if you have a good one nearby (I’ve been lucky here, but they’re rare). You can also put a note on your local freebie groups and someone might bite. In some cities you can leave them bagged outside your house with a note and they’ll be gone in hours. On some tech forum classifieds, people would give away cables and junk fans for the cost of the postage.

Legend2440 8 hours ago

>I know there's someone out there who could make use of them.

I wouldn't be so sure. I bet there's more cables out there than functioning equipment, especially for older standards like VGA or PS/2.

It's ok to throw out junk.

protocolture 4 hours ago

IT Recyclers will at least sort them and resell them in bulk as raw materials. Sometimes. When they are allowed to.

culi 3 hours ago

Someone should make a noncommercial website that allows people to post their collection. I bet there's enough people out there willing to share their cables for free just for the delight of having one of their cables being useful to someone for some reason

kstenerud an hour ago

I have cabinets for cables (all tie-strapped), arranged in separate compartments:

- USB cables with at least one USB-C end

- All other USB cables

- Network cables

- Audio and video related (RCA, HDMI, SCART, phono, XLR, displayport, BNC, S/PDIF, etc)

- Power cables

- Power adapters

- Batteries and battery chargers

- Flash sticks, type adapters, diagnostic tools

- Spare keyboards and mice

Not a week goes by where I'm not grabbing something from that cabinet. A couple of months ago I actually needed a SCART cable for the first time in forever for some old hardware.

pachico an hour ago

I am sharing this link to my wife right now!

In my defense, over the years, I upgraded the box for one of this big semitransparent IKEA boxes, lid included.

flurdy an hour ago

The problem with the big box of cables is that they multiply over the years. I now have 3 big boxes of cables. And a few smaller ones.

At least they are see trough plastic so I can easily see what is inside them though.

random3 18 hours ago

You’re not serious about it if you only have one box

dylan604 17 hours ago

I have one for video cables, one for audio cables, one for computer gear. Does that make me serious our mildly interested?

wil421 14 hours ago

Cable curious.

My categories are identical to yours. Home Depot had a sale on these stackable dewalt boxes that are much more cost effective for semi-junk stuff than Milwaukee pack outs.

advisedwang 17 hours ago

Challenge: come up with categories for the boxes such that every item has exactly one box that is correct for it.

I've got "USB", "AV" and "Networking & PC Accessories", which obviously has enormous overlap, but equally divides the cables I have pretty nicely.

dgritsko 17 hours ago

I think I've got the same three boxes. HDMI cables and adapters fall into the Venn diagram overlap of the last two IMO. You could also make a strong argument for USB also falling into "PC Accessories". But there's nothing quite as satisfying as having the _exactly right_ cable or adapter on hand to solve a problem. Makes it all worth it!

intrasight 17 hours ago

Funny this came up hn today. this week I did some organization of my cable boxes. I use banker boxes on a steel shelving unit. I put the cables and parts inappropriate boxes and labeled them and feel that my corner of the universe is a little bit better organized than before.

Mine is similar but I split audio and video since I have a lot of audio-specific stuff. "Video" only has the various monitor cable standards going back 20-odd years.

bakies 17 hours ago

Those are my categories!

ramses0 14 hours ago

"USB", "TV/HDMI", "Networking", "Every Audio Connector Known to Man", and the inimitable: "Plugs-to-Wall"

jameshart 12 hours ago

We have the same. Do you know why the ‘every audio connector known to man’ box contain every audio connector known to man but yet never a stereo 1/8” headphone-jack to headphone-jack cable?

fragmede 5 hours ago

don't know any audio engineers? If your bboc is simply a mishmash of things you've accumulated over the years, and not intelligently designed, it won't, but don't make the mistake of extrapolating from your own experience and thinking it applies to everybody.

theamk 17 hours ago

Easy! I put exclusions on my labels

"USB cables, standard"

"USB passive/special, except pigtails and USB->AV"

"AV, including USB-AV cables"

xcf_seetan 14 hours ago

Audio, computer, electric!

hamdingers 13 hours ago

Hey could you put these powered computer speakers away for me? :)

tiagod 11 hours ago

I have USB, Generic Power, IEC, Network, Audio/Video, Misc

colechristensen 9 hours ago

AV, Network, Data, Power (if it doesn't fit the first category, try the next)

If one of those buckets is too full, prepend it with something more specific

i.e. USB, Data instead of just Data

RIMR 14 hours ago

For real, I have like 200 kilos of cables. I could very likely reduce that down to something less severe, but that involves sorting and inventorying 200 kilos of cables.

embedding-shape 13 hours ago

My boxes been sorted by "what does the cable carry", one power cables, one data, one video, one patch cables, then some are split out, like sound production related cables, one with balanced 1/4", one unbalanced, one MIDI... I think in total 8 moving boxes by now.

pixl97 12 hours ago

It's always a miniature war with my wife trying to optimize all my cables away and me trying to keep as many as possible.

woozlewuzzle 6 hours ago

Depends on how big that box is

VariousPrograms 17 hours ago

Whoever does need it, I give you permission to throw out all your old cables, power adapters, and routers. Yes, on the off chance you do decide you need a Palm III dock, Linksys WRT54G, or Sony PSP charger that means you'd have to buy one on Ebay, but you can cross that $10 bridge if it actually happens.

EvanAnderson 17 hours ago

For me it's not the cost that bugs me when I don't have a part, but rather the disruption to my flow. If I can't get a project done all at once I'm much less likely to ever get it done.

embedding-shape 13 hours ago

And whoever needs something else, I give you permission to ignore this fool and keep your box(es) of cables. I don't regret a single thing about my ~8 boxes of cables.

mf2hd 13 hours ago

No, this method does not work. I tried, got rid of all those stuff because why would I need it ever again. And of course a month later I needed that one stupid thing right there and then. And I remember throwing away... Not again, I keep at least one cable of each in a separate box to find immediately, the rest is stored, it is not asking for any money.

js2 8 hours ago

Yeah, what happens to me is I need a thing, go to Amazon to order it, see that I already bought it 4 years ago, spend 30 minutes trying to find it, then let out a big sigh and order it again.

Most recently: a USB to TTL serial adapter.

DANmode 6 hours ago

You’re not replying to the comment.

If you’re using 20 year old hardware, okay - keep 20 year old wires and accessories.

Most are not.

Put an expiration date on your neuroticism. Old dirty stuff can literally consume you.

Ask me how I know!

LocalH 13 hours ago

Throwing away proprietary cables is a sin. Throwing away standard commodity USB cables is not so much

carlosjobim 11 hours ago

Give them away to a thrift shop instead. Then you've helped somebody else who will find that cable in the thrift shop. So they can put it on ebay and sell it back to you when you need it two months later.

protocolture 4 hours ago

Yeah its hard enough when you need a Mini USB cable. When you need the proprietary RS232 cable for an old piece of hardware, at short notice, that stings.

SkyPuncher 11 hours ago

For me, the hardest part is actually figuring out what the cable is called in order to find a replacement.

DANmode 6 hours ago

hardest part was

ButlerianJihad 3 hours ago

Google Lens

CommieBobDole 11 hours ago

I have a bin of cables marked "Obsolete". A cable only goes in there if there's absolutely no possibility of it being used for any reason ever again.

I use cables from it once every few years.

godelski 13 hours ago

I put my cables in bags then in a box. I can't tell you how helpful the bags are. It only took me like an hour to sort the first time. But it's already saved me hours only a year later. Those 5 minutes of searching add up. Just fight the laziness and don't let entropy increase. It's *far* easier to stay organized than it is to organize

SchemaLoad 9 hours ago

Also helps to cut down on your number of cables once you see you have 5 USB-B cables when at most you need 1. I ziplock bagged all of my cables and cut them down to one of each type. These days I throw out the included cable with devices immediately rather than throwing it in with all the others. Thankfully a lot of new devices don't include cables now so the wastage is cut down.

ErrorNoBrain an hour ago

i bought a few loads of nice quality plastic boxes, with plastic lids (its got small handles that "clasp" around the lid, so they're almost air tight)

then i sorted my cables and printed out a normal piece of paper, with the text like "networking", or "PC cables" or whatever and placed that in the side of the boxes

then i can stack them in the basement and easily know which box i need, when i need a cable

its been super handy.

ive used the same trick, for same boxes, for our other storage boxes too. Wifes hobby items, christmas decorations, old consoles, or whatever

makes it super organized. (you need transparent boxes if you wanna just throw in a label print on the inside. i can place one on top of the items and i can see it from above, or either side of the box)

noisy_boy 3 hours ago

We moved a few months ago and it was so satisfying seeing the inventory of cables I had been saving for years getting used up. The cable-watermark in the box actually started noticably lowering. Nobody gave me the loud praise I deserved but it sure was satisfying saying "yeah I have the cable for it, here you go" with a distinct feeling of superiority.

centurix 3 hours ago

My yearly cull of cables across several boxes:

1. Sort into cable type

2. Keep the shortest and longest of each type

3. Ditch all the others

I still have 6 drawers of cables.

numpad0 9 hours ago

I think what nerds need to understand is that normal people hate accessories. Superheroes need no IV lines, they lose power when they are added and regain it when they are removed. They think throwing away cables and accessories make machines healthier.

So, the way it needs to be communicated is that they are necessary evil that help machines be happy. And also to allow special purpose tools and cables to be stored inside the machine if possible, so they don't psychologically present as excess decorations and/or gifts.

Brosper 32 minutes ago

Literally today my friend asked me if I have a cable for an iPod :P

ElijahLynn 16 hours ago

Clear Hefty Slider bags are perfect for this! I have my cable boxes (Hefty Hi-Rise) filled with these bags, USB -A to USB-C, USB -C to USB-C (then sub-bagged with 65w, 100w, 240w) and so on.

Point is, use clear bags so you can see inside, and Hefty makes the slider version. I get the gallon and half gallon bags for this, and then the quart size as well. This is the Marie Kondo technique and it's amazing for keeping all these cables which are always coming in handy!

I keep the duplicates, because you never know which color and length is going to be the perfect fit for the current need!

isodude 5 hours ago

The rule: one cable per bag! At least in my case.

cgufus 3 hours ago

  Thunderbolt 3 -> Thunderbolt 2 -> Firewire 800 -> Firewire 400
                                 -> Ethernet
                   USB 3 -> USB 2/1 --> micro/mini/whatever-USB
  VGA, DVI-D, DVI-I, HDMI, microHDMI, [m]DisplayPort
all there. And after this post, I'll keep them even longer.

Often people don't realize there is only "downwards-compatibility", meaning later technologies can "tunnel" an "older" signal (such as DisplayPort being able to Tunnel DVI/HDMI) when using passive adapters, while the other way it's not possible.

BeetleB 14 hours ago

I'm terrified of not being able to find old USB cables.

My D2A converter I use to route TV audio to a small amplifier died. It was cheap, but decent. I wanted another cheap one. I had trouble finding any. Finally, I snagged a pair on Amazon/eBay, but it used ancient USB connections. Luckily, I had old USB cables, so I'm good. But what will I do if the USB cable stops working?

smw 13 hours ago

What are ancient usb connections? Type A? B?

pdpi 13 hours ago

Mini-B cables can be somewhat hard to find.

sokoloff 12 hours ago

Since school started this year, I bought both my kids TI-84 plus CE calculators. Both were being sold cheap because “no charging cable” (uses a mini-B) while I had a dozen in a box.

I wish that happened a lot less as I have entirely too many old cables.

MisterTea 12 hours ago

There was also the Micro-A which I found on some dev boards. I think the Arduino Due (Arm Cortex M3 chip) used one for the USB host port as well as an Atmel Arm uc board.

Also that weird, really small USB connector that was found on some early digital cameras. I think Kodak was a big user of it. Sorta looked like a narrower and taller version of the Mini-B. Maybe the Mini-AB but that doesn't look like it. I have one in my box at home.

Gigachad 12 hours ago

Old digital cameras just used non standard usb shapes so they are almost impossible to find now.

MisterTea 12 hours ago

Ah, they were proprietary then. I thought they were an early standard that lacked a 5th pin.

avhception 12 hours ago

I hold on to my precious few mini-Bs. They also seem to have a tendency to break.

michaelt 12 hours ago

How are you going to download photos from your USB Nikon camera to your USB iPod Photo if you don't even have a UC-E6 to 30-pin dock connector cable?

tikhonj 18 hours ago

In my big box of cables I have, among other things, a double-ended USB-A cable. I understand that this is absolutely not standards compliant, and I have absolutely no idea of where I got it from. I have never used it. But it is a thing that exists.

Getting rid of almost 10 different proprietary charging cables for pre-smart phones and some old laptops felt great though :P

MrDOS 17 hours ago

I had one of those to charge a bicycle headlight. I gave it away with the bicycle, but in the span of time I had it, one visiting guest borrowed it to recharge a portable generic USB battery pack. So there you go, two product categories known to use that sort of cable!

sanj 17 hours ago

This came with a double-ended USB-A for charging: https://www.rei.com/product/248291/biolite-luci-original-cle...

jauntywundrkind 17 hours ago

Mine came from usb<->sata adapters.

1-more 14 hours ago

mine had 2 male USB ends on one side and 1 on the other. It was to power a laptop hard disk drive from USB if one port couldn't provide enough power. Feels illegal. I bought it off eBay with a money order in like 2003.

toast0 17 hours ago

> double-ended USB-A cable.

Decades ago, I purchased a usb external hard drive case with a usb-a for the connection to the computer. Returned that pretty quick because eww.

kps 17 hours ago

There are also cables that look exactly like a double-ended USB-A cable but aren't. https://ftdichip.com/products/usb-nmc-2-5m/

tikhonj 17 hours ago

Neat, I had never heard of those.

moritzwarhier 17 hours ago

You and the other responders are probably familiar with it, but you made me look up this decent StackExchange answer again, coming from a search for "the forbidden usb cable" :)

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/a/444287

majorchord 17 hours ago

mine came from a USB charger spycam

creaturemachine 17 hours ago

I installed some HP slide-out rackmount keyboard/monitor units that used these as the host connection. This was back in the days when PS/2 was still around so they usually weren't used.

VCFundedGenYer 13 hours ago

Double-ended USB A cables were popular in the 2000s/early 2010s for powering external hard drives or USB DVD drives.

jameshart 12 hours ago

Put a USB C to A adapter on each end and you’ve got yourself a perfectly serviceable USBC cable.

qurren 11 hours ago

I have a few of those too. My laser cutter needs one. I've seen lots of "expensive equipment" use USB A-to-A cables, for some odd reason.

tom_ 10 hours ago

I've got a 7 port USB 3.0 hub that connects with a double ended USB-A cable.

felixfurtak 13 hours ago

Only one big box of cables! What an amateur.

You need at least 4. And another one for power supplies.

masfuerte 12 hours ago

Yes. And it's not even a big box.

OroPla 12 hours ago

Wait,.. you guys only have one big box of cables?