I wonder how far or how good Mali is now compared to others. I wish Chip and Cheese do compassion on GPU as well.
Arm Mali G2-Ultra NX GPU: desktop-class mobile gameplay with AI-native graphics (newsroom.arm.com)
ksec 5 hours ago
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throwa356262 4 hours ago
Example benchmark showing how extremely far Google is behind:
GeekBench 6 Compute Score (GPU):
Xring O3. 36901. (the GPU in this announcement)
Snapdragon 8 Elite G5 27501. (Adreno 840)
Dimensity 9500M. 23753. (Mali-G1 Ultra MP11).
Tensor G6. 6216. (PowerVR CXTP-48-1536)MindSpunk 3 hours ago
And then Google has the gall to charge basically flagship prices for their under powered junk.
Personally I don't buy flagship phones because I don't use their full compute capabilities anyway, but a Pixel 11 would cost 2x what I paid for my Pixel 8. For 0 GPU performance improvement.
ksec 3 hours ago
I just can't wait to see it being tested in an actual phone. So far all the data are done on development board. If they are really as good as everything we have read so far, both Mediatek and Qualcomm are in big trouble.
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pjmlp 4 hours ago
Unless it is a Pixel or Samsung Sxy flagship device, chances are the driver, which will never get updated, it a box full of interesting developer moments.
Just go to chrome://gpu to check the amount of workarounds enabled in Chrome alone.
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krautsauer 5 hours ago
> Moats were excavated around castles and other fortifications as part of the defensive system as an obstacle immediately outside the walls.
Unfortunate wording?
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pjmlp 2 hours ago
Any conference talk schedule at one of these conferences (https://gameconfguide.com) will prove the point of how little they care.
It is all about gameplay, taking advantage of gaming IP, franchaises, how to squeeze the ultimate performance out of specific hardware, user engagement,....
You will find an occasional talk about open APIs, probably even done by some Khronos folks, and that's it.
david-gpu 16 minutes ago
First, they would spill all of their secret sauce for others to "draw inspiration" from. And there is a lot of expensive secret sauce in there. Not all of it is protected by parents either; more on that below.
Second, they would make it a lot easier for competitors and patent trolls alike to seek litigation. One of the criteria thech companies have for filing a patent is how easy is it to detect when it is being violated. Open source your stuff, and you make it much easier for the competition to detect any violation.
And it is not like these companies are violating patents intentionally; much the opposite. But there are only so many ways to implement Vulkan or DirectX, and completely independent teams will come up with similar enough solutions, and with broad enough patents, that there will be overlap every now and then. That is why they file patents in the first place. Only the high cost of litigation and the risk of mutually-assured destruction keeps legitimate vendors from rattling sabers more often.
Then you have NVidia with their immense investment and advantage on the software side, from the CUDA runtime to countless libraries like CUBLAS and cuDNN. That investment goes much beyond a relatively simple Vulkan/DirectX driver.
So the question is less "why don't more of them open-source userland". The question is "why do any of them do it"?
Source: former insider with enough patents under my belt that I lost count.
throwa356262 4 hours ago
I thought these GPU were open source with mainline kernel support?
adrian_b 12 minutes ago
Thus there is a considerable lag for the support of newer Mali generations.
Some Linux distributions for various embedded computers with Arm-based CPUs and GPUs use closed-source GPU drivers from Arm, not the reverse-engineered Linux drivers, when the Mali versions are newer than supported by the kernel and Mesa.
The Arm GPUs do not have public technical documentation, not even at the level of NVIDIA, much less something comparable with AMD and Intel.
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