The Highest Point in the Netherlands (ipv6.hanazo.no)

58 pointsby haasted3 days ago40 comments

glimshe an hour ago

A well written piece. I achieved financial independence and left the rat race. Very glad I did before I got guillotined like many of my friends. While sometimes I miss being around smart people, I never want to see the inside of a giant corporation building again. I hope Ole Trøan finds peace in his post-Cisco life.

hangrybear666 2 hours ago

I live in Germany and right next to the highest point of the (European) Netherlands, it's only a 5k walk and you barely notice the elevation change. It's not necessarily underwhelming but definitely not overwhelming, in fact it's just whelming - so I'm glad OP got more out of the experience.

csomar 8 minutes ago

Nice. Did you find hungry bears at that elevation?

CalRobert 4 hours ago

Strangely, mushrooms are illegal in NL, but truffles are not.

rollulus 4 hours ago

I don’t find that strange. Our drug policy is not backed by any sort of philosophy. E.g. possessing cannabis is illegal in NL. The policy is the outcome of micro-panics (a few accidents with tourists on shrooms), indecisiveness and fear.

anal_reactor an hour ago

> And of course the exclusion. Inside a group, then outside it. People I ate lunch with went quiet. The chats went quiet. I became a story other people told carefully.

This is why I don't rely on workplace being the place where friendships happen. Whenever I feel like there's friendship growing, I add that person on some app, and then we meet outside of work. In that way even if we part ways professionally, we can still be friends privately. I spam people with game screenshots, pics of food, and racist rants. I invite them to gatherings and outings.

hypfer 4 hours ago

That was weirdly and unexpectedly vulnerable, which is nice I suppose.

Would've been even nicer without glorifying substance abuse, but, well.

anewhnaccount2 3 hours ago

I thought it was relatively balanced. "It happened to work for me this time but it could have gone horribly wrong." That's the truth of psychedelics as a theraputic tool.

hypfer 3 hours ago

It is true that the text comes with disclaimers, but I read them more like the result of a 25 year career in corporate, rather than a genuinely balanced view on the matter.

akie 2 hours ago

How is it abuse?

hypfer 2 hours ago

They're being used as a crutch to fast-track achieve the illusion of a goal.

That is textbook abuse, because you're deluding yourself into believing that you're achieving something, when in reality, the only thing you do achieve is addiction. Or so the worst-case outcome anyway.

Abuse of course sounds like you're hurting someone else, but in this case, you're just hurting yourself. But you do that quite hard.

Ego death is hard, but achievable without cheating like that. And - not to be snarky - when laid off, you have a lot of time for the introspection to pull that off without such crutches.

The author decided otherwise - and it's their right to do that - but it's still textbook substance abuse, which is objectively bad.

Hence my comment to correct that.

It shall be read as directed as the reader getting wrong ideas. Not at the guy clearly struggling and just finding something that works for them.

If you take a look at the rest of the comment section, you will see why this is ethically necessary.

FWIW, it's not the author's fault that this ended up in this place, but it still ended up in this place, and with that, it is harmful, because HN does not comprehend the idea of context.

robin_reala 30 minutes ago

Sorry, mushrooms and addiction? Of all the things to worry about with mushrooms, that’s the least likely.

adammarples 2 hours ago

Substance abuse is a poor description for taking magic mushrooms

expedition32 3 minutes ago

Dutch people love glorifying drugs and then act outraged when the country becomes a narco state.

LoganDark 4 hours ago

I love psychedelics! I use LSD recreationally every few weeks or so. I believe it's related to psilocybin (from magic mushrooms) by also being a tryptamine. Always love hearing about good experiences.

dgellow 2 hours ago

That sort of explains your system (see user profile)

pestatije 4 hours ago

its a power thing isn't it...organised collectives have way bigger influence than individuals...and the most successful organised collective is the business company... nowadays some of them more powerful than nation states... individuals subject to company objectives and other individuals empowered by their position in a company...a vote is no longer the expression of liberty...we are under the whims of corporations... companies are the true sovereign, go, incorporate, pay Irish taxes, and give the middle finger to ur government

pseudohadamard 2 days ago

The Netherlands isn't that flat. Its highest point is Mt.Scenery at 870m.

skylurk 5 hours ago

I guess we can't call it the nether-lands anymore.

317070 5 hours ago

Fortunately, the article is neither about the Netherlands nor about its highest point. The title is a joke about hallucinogens.

LoganDark 4 hours ago

The article also literally contains "The Netherlands is very flat."

csomar 6 minutes ago

It's either a bot or a meat proxy. I have answered another one to see if they are pro-active. I'd have expected that at least they should process the article but apparently tokens are so expensive in this economy.

gpxl 5 hours ago

Why does every HN thread have to start with someone telling someone else they’re wrong about something?

Bootvis 4 hours ago

It’s a joke. Mt. Scenery is in the Caribbean, part of the Netherlands but not in the flat mainland.

gpxl 3 hours ago

TIL!

rollulus 4 hours ago

Well since you ask: GP is inaccurate because Mt. Scenery is part of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, but not the Netherlands.

Edit: I was wrong, see skylurk’s comment.

skylurk 3 hours ago

Saba joined the Netherlands in 2010

rollulus 3 hours ago

Nice, I stand corrected. A “special municipality”, TIL!

rwoerz 2 hours ago

It doesn't always start like that! Sometimes you get corrected in the middle of a thread.

rambambram 4 hours ago

Mt. Scenery... never heard of it as a Dutchy. I found out that's in the Caribbean.

You just asked your AI God of choice about this, perhaps?

CalRobert 4 hours ago

The Netherlands highest point is in the Caribbean though

https://youtu.be/UJkVHgFsF60

Scarblac 4 hours ago

It is correct though, since 2010 Saba is a "speciale gemeente" of the Netherlands, and its mountain is thus our highest point. Before that it was organised as a separate country "Nederlandse Antillen" with the other Caribbean islands.

stein1946 4 hours ago

Indeed, The Netherlands is this make-believe place where Peter Pan and Tinker Bell come from

yread 3 hours ago

Higher than Belgium!

pseudohadamard 3 hours ago

Don't ever use that word outside of a Serious Screenplay.

dcminter 2 hours ago

Tell me you're from the US without etc.

shdon an hour ago

It's a reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Which, funnily enough, is of British origin instead of American.

hangrybear666 2 hours ago

I've recently hiked to the highest point of Belgium, it's 693 meters but because humans have some ego thing attached to round numbers they built a 7 meter tall stone tower you can ascend to hit 700m.

dgellow 2 hours ago

That’s considered flat where I’m from :)

skylurk 37 minutes ago

Don't knock it til you've tried it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_(Saba)