ElevenLabs, TwelveLabs, ThirteenLabs (quantumi.sh)

264 pointsby jemoka7 hours ago87 comments

progbits 4 hours ago

https://www.twelvelabs.io/blog/introducing-the-multimodal-ai...

> Twelve Labs and ElevenLabs are co-hosting the 23Labs Hackathon

BoorishBears an hour ago

I was confused why I was already on the list... this is from 2023.

WhatsName 6 hours ago

Tried to register sixsevenlabs, too late unfortunately...

possibilistic 5 hours ago

All of them copied 15.ai

ElevenLabs was a commercial version of 15.ai. It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product. He was in the right place, right time, with tremendous attention, but missed the opportunity.

The other "labs" followed the trend. The {number}labs / {number}.ai domains all quickly got squatted.

I was in the same space and watched it happening. I launched FakeYou about the same time as 15.ai, but 15 had the backing of 4chan and a better model. I still made it to 7M MAU and a million in revenue despite that.

Just last year, Fish Audio picked up where 15.ai / FakeYou / UberDuck / Weights.gg left off and made it to $20M ARR, which is a lesson about abandoning under-served markets when you still have tremendous gravity.

itsthecourier 5 hours ago

damn, what a rollercoaster you had there, man

idontneedcoffee 5 hours ago

This world of cheap (vc) money, huge private equity sells and high revenue early in the products development phase is so distant to me(geographically and even more so, mentally), I need some help deciding what to do with my project and I'd really appreciate if you could DM me

quantumwoke 4 hours ago

You were a year behind 15.ai with FakeYou. I know, because I was six months ahead of you and didn't execute in time. Momentum is everything.

possibilistic 4 hours ago

I wasn't after them, I just changed my product's name. They had monumentally better distribution.

I launched as vo.codes (and two prior names) before 2020 and later rebranded to FakeYou.

https://thenextweb.com/news/celebrity-voices-deepfake-ai-app

Rebranding a domain with traction is a mistake, in retrospect. I think Magnific is learning this lesson now after undergoing a change from the popular FreePik.

I'm a filmmaker and I wanted to get into video models, and FakeYou felt more like a pivot to UGC video (vo.codes was too audio centric) that I could ultimately swing me into cinematic video. I was too slow and that was not a good choice.

But Higgsfield and Bytedance showed you can be late and still win a lionshare of the market.

My video product launched in February and is at $5M ARR / 67% MoM growth.

quantumwoke 4 hours ago

I was six months ahead of vo.codes, well aware. Anyway, UGC was a good pivot and wish you all the best.

narrationbox 2 hours ago

Are you still working on it?

possibilistic an hour ago

I found my way to where I want to be.

I'm working on https://getartcraft.com which is open source:

https://github.com/storytold/artcraft

We're in use by a few film studios and some pretty popular AI artists. There are a couple of theatrical releases coming out that use us, but I can't talk about it. (Under NDA for the individual projects.)

It's at $5M ARR and growing 65% month-on-month by word of mouth.

ArtCraftX (launching soon) is a new UX that lets you bring your own compute from every single platform and vibe code your own workflow UX. You can clone the repo and easily add/remove things you want. It's okay that people can bring competitor compute - we'll be generous and open.

https://artcraftx.ai/

Think of it as "ComfyUI, but comfortable" and geared to high-volume creators rather than hobbyists. It's written in Rust.

Critically, people should be able to not only own their apps, but be able to deeply customize them.

I've also built an open source FAL/OpenRouter which I eventually want to build RunPod/Featherless (fine tunes) features into. It's called "Foundation", and it's in private beta but launches GA soon. I think it could have good positioning vs. Stripe / OpenRouter since it's open source and is meant to be extensible. Fully BYOK, too.

I'm looking to hire someone to help me build a social layer for creators that ties all of this together. YesAnd got funding to pursue this, but I think they're taking the wrong approach. I think it should be open and hackable. More like Github, but still artist friendly.

A lot of platforms either target B2B enterprise (Runway, Krea) or UGC / "everyone can be a creator" (Higgsfield, OpenArt), but I think creators look more like the Github set. Intentional, and in need of tools they own.

inigyou 4 hours ago

I got 99 labs but bringing value to society ain't one

krackers 2 hours ago

>It's crazy, because 15.ai could have had the venture-scale outcomes if he'd fundraised and turned it into a SaaS product

Or equivalently could have gone down as a "deepseek" moment in TTS if the model was open-sourced (I don't think even a paper was published). It's a bit strange, he never made any profit but also never ended up publishing anything even after it was shut down.

echelon 2 hours ago

He's seemingly anti-AI now on Twitter and recently built a "no-AI" artist marketplace.

His users convinced him to close 15.ai, so it's unlikely the model will ever see the light of day.

There are thankfully a lot of high quality open source TTS models now.

sph 2 hours ago

I literally have no idea if this is parody.

zachthewf an hour ago

Nope, not parody. Very accurate description of early-2020s consumer TTS websites.

possibilistic 14 minutes ago

^ Zach is the founder of Uberduck, which was massively popular.

rozab 37 minutes ago

For context, 15 was some brony tf2 player who cracked deep voice synthesis in order to make My Little Pony characters say funny things. He then offered this for free on his site. It was never a clever branding thing, it was just his username.

It's funny seeing HN types being genuinely confused as to why someone would just make interesting things for the sake of making them, and then offer them freely for the good of others. He used to be on HN, there's good insights in his posts: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=15ai

darkwater 4 hours ago

SixSevenLabs btw seems really cringe, see https://www.67lab.ai/catalog/clawnexus

Illniyar 3 hours ago

https://41labs.ai/

I think this is the most obviously AI designed website I have ever seen.

From the nonsensical logo, the bland generic design language, overlapping support chats to mix and match of different landing page patterns. Misaligned avatar circles.

grensley 2 hours ago

I think the logo is pretty nifty actually. It's both "41" and "AI"

Gareth321 an hour ago

Yeah I guess I'm AI because I like it.

quantumish 4 hours ago

Author here. Very surprised to see this here - my poor web server wasn't built for this! It's back up for now.

qurren 16 minutes ago

Reminds me of the PCB companies. 3pcb, 4pcb, 5pcb, 6pcb, 7pcb, ...

polygot 37 minutes ago

https://gist.github.com/alexyorke/2b34de0856c143936c7f4deb6f...

vova_hn2 3 hours ago

Missed the best name! https://1337labs.org/

(I'm not affiliated with this company and know nothing about it)

kennywinker 6 hours ago

What I’m seeing is there are 29 available startup names just waiting…

tcherasaro 6 hours ago

Yeah! 50 labs is still available. I know what I’m getting myself for my 50th birthday!

bee_rider 5 hours ago

After that we’ll have to expand to 3 digits, which will open the possibility of naming your company after hip area codes.

Evidlo 5 hours ago

kennywinkerlabs

kennywinker 3 hours ago

K9rLabs

izucken 3 hours ago

this guy f3s

ivan888 3 hours ago

New OEIS entry: numbers used in names of startups followed by “labs”

pranav_tech26 2 hours ago

At this point, naming conventions in AI startups are starting to read like a sequence counting exercise. Focus on core API reliability over branding gimmicks.

DrewADesign 2 hours ago

Maybe soon they’ll be effectively disposable enough to start using the naming strategies of Chinese Amazon resellers of generic crap. Like “The mission statement of GLUFDRAWNBY labs is…”

streptomycin 4 hours ago

Reminiscent of 22 Savage <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIz1HGNlTA4>, 23 Savage <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8JKly7sXpU>, etc.

marssaxman 5 hours ago

I used to work for a startup called 1026 Labs!

rgovostes 4 hours ago

Amazon's hardware development subsidiary in Sunnyvale, California is Lab126. (Hi Mars!)

jv22222 3 hours ago

> https://app.seventylabs.ch/

> 6.90 CHF - locks your Mac's keyboard, trackpad and mouse and shows a black screen while you clean. Free 7-day trial.

> 4.90 CHF - opens macOS's color loupe on any pixel on screen and instantly copies its HEX, RGB or HSL code to the clipboard. History of your last 8 colors, with a real magnifier that zooms into pixels. Free 7-day trial.

That's weird that the more techy thing is cheaper.

allthetime 3 hours ago

both of those things are available for free from others.

we can assume all of that is AI-generated rip off code anyways.

hollow-moe 2 hours ago

Both of those are actually built-in but very poorly documented (or basically undocumented). Disable keyboard for cleaning : https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/448938 and for the color picker MacOS has "Digital Color Meter.app" preinstalled when its window has the focus hover anywhere on screen and use cmd+shift+c to copy the value (by default it uses RGB but in the View menu you can change it to hexadecimal, the values are then copied as HTML #)

no_no_no_yes 4 hours ago

Wow, haha I just created an LLC that is a "<number> Labs" company. I don't plan on raising VC or anything public with it, it's just a name to release apps on the app store under.

I was trying to come up with a name and it was exhausting, everything was taken, I was trying "clever names", eventually after strategizing with ChatGPT it gave me the suggestion along the lines of:

"Many people just use their initials, birthdate, or area code, plus the word 'software', 'tech', or 'labs'"

And I went ahead with that and called it a day!

saghm 4 hours ago

I got lucky when registering an LLC last year for some contract work because despite having a relatively common first and last name, no one had named an nLLC that in my (very large) city. At some point during the process, I had to pick an officer title for myself for some paperwork, but there didn't seem to be any guidelines or restrictions on them, so I just put down my name for that too; I figured that being Firstname Lastname of Firstname Lastname LLC is probably even more clear than "CEO" since it makes it even more obvious that I'm the only one in it.

overfeed 3 hours ago

Doctors and dentist sometimes do that for their practices, but aren't the only ones working there.

fwlr 5 hours ago

I see someone is implementing FizzBuzz in “startup funding rounds”.

dlcarrier 2 hours ago

Amazon beat everyone to the punch, with Lab126.

01284a7e 6 hours ago

Hitchhiker: You heard of this thing, the 8-Minute Abs?

Ted: Yeah, sure, 8-Minute Abs. Yeah, the exercise video.

Hitchhiker: Yeah, this is going to blow that right out of the water. Listen to this: 7... Minute... Abs.

Ted: Right. Yes. OK, all right. I see where you're going.

Hitchhiker: Think about it. You walk into a video store, you see 8-Minute Abs sittin' there, there's 7-Minute Abs right beside it. Which one are you gonna pick, man?

Ted: I would go for the 7.

Hitchhiker: Bingo, man, bingo. 7-Minute Abs. And we guarantee just as good a workout as the 8-minute folk.

Ted: You guarantee it? That's - how do you do that?

Hitchhiker: If you're not happy with the first 7 minutes, we're gonna send you the extra minute free. You see? That's it. That's our motto. That's where we're comin' from. That's from "A" to "B".

Ted: That's right. That's - that's good. That's good. Unless, of course, somebody comes up with 6-Minute Abs. Then you're in trouble, huh?

[Hitchhiker convulses]

Hitchhiker: No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

Ted: That - good point.

Hitchhiker: 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

Ted: Why?

Hitchhiker: 'Cause you're fuckin' fired!

asveikau 4 hours ago

I was trying to remember the actor/comedian who delivered this pitch. It was Harland Williams. I most remember him as the Pennsylvania state trooper from Dumb & Dumber.

NooneAtAll3 4 hours ago

why did he fire the guy who now obviously will go and make the 6-minute abs he proposed?

tosh 4 hours ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB2di69FmhE

from There's Something About Mary

zahrevsky 6 hours ago

Finally, a periodic table of labs

Caracas288 an hour ago

There’s still time to get in on the ground floor! What an opportunity

chvid 5 hours ago

All those cool domain names are gone now - the power of the hn frontpage!

malixp 2 hours ago

At this point I’m expecting FourteenLabs to show up with a $200M valuation and a mission statement about “redefining human potential."

djmips 4 hours ago

https://www.linkedin.com/company/one-bit-labs/posts/?feedVie...

dainiusse 5 hours ago

Three score and ten labs

dylan604 5 hours ago

Three score and seven labs /s

agg23 4 hours ago

A long time ago I used "23 Labs" as a funny name relative to my username. Fast forward many years and I considered actually using it. Apparently "[Number] Labs" is a very popular idea now...

Oh well

avipars 3 hours ago

https://archive.md/BHilO